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lordscarlet
08-31-2009, 04:33 PM
Does anyone own any of the small, sub compact cars? In particular my wife are leaning toward the Honda Fit and I was curious if we have any real world experience with such cars here on the board. The Fit looks great on paper, but we have yet to test drive it.

Chief Rum
08-31-2009, 05:05 PM
Does anyone own any of the small, sub compact cars? In particular my wife are leaning toward the Honda Fit and I was curious if we have any real world experience with such cars here on the board. The Fit looks great on paper, but we have yet to test drive it.

I can contribute nothing to your thread, unfortunately.

That said, your thread gives me the opportunity to comment on how much some of these little cars look like the old IMac monitors on wheels.

remper
08-31-2009, 05:11 PM
Actually my fiance and I bought a Fit in May. We have the Sport model so I can only speak to that. We love it. It's quick (relatively), we get about 37 mpg highway, its actually way more roomy than it looks, and the back seats fold in a number of ways. The only thing wrong with it is it has no center console, and your arm just kind of hangs... unless you drive with your right arm...


We also live in flat Illinois. If you're doing any hilly driving you might want something with a little more power.

lordscarlet
08-31-2009, 05:33 PM
Actually my fiance and I bought a Fit in May. We have the Sport model so I can only speak to that. We love it. It's quick (relatively), we get about 37 mpg highway, its actually way more roomy than it looks, and the back seats fold in a number of ways. The only thing wrong with it is it has no center console, and your arm just kind of hangs... unless you drive with your right arm...


We also live in flat Illinois. If you're doing any hilly driving you might want something with a little more power.

The sport is what we're looking at. I believe the center console is an option.

Our current car has 92 hp, so the 107 or so the Fit has is an upgrade. ;)

I'm curious, based on a few articles I have now read, about prices right now. Some articles indicate that they ahve been jacked up because of the clunkers program. And additionally that inventory is low because of clunkers, so the dealers have the upper hand in the supply vs. demand department.

Coffee Warlord
08-31-2009, 06:06 PM
I'm curious, based on a few articles I have now read, about prices right now. Some articles indicate that they ahve been jacked up because of the clunkers program. And additionally that inventory is low because of clunkers, so the dealers have the upper hand in the supply vs. demand department.

Give it a couple of weeks if you're buying new. Now that clunkers is gone, sales are going to plummet for a good long while. They're going to be real hard up real fast, especially with the majority of dealers being owed a good sum of money from the government. Should be able to get good value on a trade-in + good deal on car.

FrogMan
08-31-2009, 08:21 PM
my wife drives a Yaris, which I'd guess qualifies as a sub compact even though she's got the sedan version, not the hatchback one. She loves it and for having driven it a few times, it's a fun car to drive. Much more pep than it appears at first look...

FM

fantom1979
09-01-2009, 01:13 PM
Our current car has 92 hp, so the 107 or so the Fit has is an upgrade. ;)



92hp??? I think my lawnmower has 90hp. Do you pull start that thing, or does it have a crank??? :lol:

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Honestly, i have heard good things about the Fit, but I have no personal experience with it.

lordscarlet
09-01-2009, 01:26 PM
92hp??? I think my lawnmower has 90hp. Do you pull start that thing, or does it have a crank??? :lol:

It is adventurous when climbing hills -- turning off the AC helps. :)

1995 Mitsubishi Mirage specs, auto safety at Edmunds (http://www.edmunds.com/used/1995/mitsubishi/mirage/12491/specs.html)

SackAttack
09-01-2009, 01:34 PM
Does anyone own any of the small, sub compact cars? In particular my wife are leaning toward the Honda Fit and I was curious if we have any real world experience with such cars here on the board. The Fit looks great on paper, but we have yet to test drive it.

Why does that read like you originally said "my wife and I are" and then went "shit, gotta maintain my board cred"? ;)

I think the smallest car I've driven is the Cobalt. Does that qualify?

wade moore
09-01-2009, 01:50 PM
I think the smallest car I've driven is the Cobalt. Does that qualify?

I had a Cobalt for a rental.

Worst.

Car.

Evar.

Coffee Warlord
09-01-2009, 01:53 PM
I had a Cobalt for a rental.

Worst.

Car.

Evar.

Nope, sorry, that award goes to any Kia.

wade moore
09-01-2009, 01:58 PM
Nope, sorry, that award goes to any Kia.

Ok, fair enough - my sample size probably isn't large enough.

But let's not let that take away from the fact that the Cobalt is a piece of shit.

claphamsa
09-01-2009, 02:12 PM
does a mustang count as sub compact? :P only 339 horsepower!

Coffee Warlord
09-01-2009, 02:12 PM
Ok, fair enough - my sample size probably isn't large enough.

But let's not let that take away from the fact that the Cobalt is a piece of shit.

Not arguing that point. :)

I think most rental companies these days buy Kias as a sick joke they inflict upon random customers. Both me and my girlfriend have been stuck with 2 different model Kias in the past. I'm still not convinced they actually contain a real live engine.

RomaGoth
09-01-2009, 02:23 PM
Thought this was a freecreditreport.com song thread.....

lordscarlet
09-01-2009, 02:29 PM
Why does that read like you originally said "my wife and I are" and then went "shit, gotta maintain my board cred"? ;)

Wow -- not sure how that typo happened. I twas definitely meant to say "my wife and I are". Hell, if it were just me I might just go straight for the smart and be done with it. :)

Thought this was a freecreditreport.com song thread.....

Am I not the only one that sings along with those?

clemsonfan
09-01-2009, 02:41 PM
My husband drives a Toyota Yaris. It gets great gas mileage and has been a great car so far. He commutes an hour to work every day so we had to get something with excellent gas mileage.

RomaGoth
09-01-2009, 02:41 PM
Am I not the only one that sings along with those?

Singing it right now, in fact. Damn you FOFC random threads.....:rant:

stevew
09-01-2009, 02:45 PM
People fear me. I drive a dodge Stratus.

lordscarlet
09-01-2009, 04:02 PM
My husband drives a Toyota Yaris. It gets great gas mileage and has been a great car so far. He commutes an hour to work every day so we had to get something with excellent gas mileage.

We are looking for great gas mileage as well as something that will maximize the parallel parking spaces we can fit into. :)

I love a lot of the interior features the Fit offers, particularly the LCD screen that has a USB hookup and the seats that fold down excellently and in different configurations.

lordscarlet
10-09-2009, 01:13 PM
I think my wife and I have decided on a 2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI. Even though I told myself I would never buy a brand new car again, it seems to be the perfect compromise for my wife and I. I want something a little more "refined" than a Honda, and she wants something environmentally friendly. We both want something small to maximize our parking options and, well, because we don't need something big.

Does anyone have experience with modern diesels, or even better, the TDI specifically? It will be the same engine as the current Jetta TDI.

How is diesel availability these days? My impression is that it's plentiful these days, unlike when my mom had her Diesel Subaru in the early 80's.

It seems like people have a love/hate with VW, but most of the people I know fall on the "love" side. Any current or former VW owners out there?

stevew
10-09-2009, 01:43 PM
The easiest thing would be for you do to a 10-20 block radius search of your townhouse for a station with Diesel. If there isn't one, don't buy a diesel. You have to know by now that they can't be trusted to ever put fuel in the car.

lordscarlet
10-09-2009, 01:52 PM
The easiest thing would be for you do to a 10-20 block radius search of your townhouse for a station with Diesel. If there isn't one, don't buy a diesel. You have to know by now that they can't be trusted to ever put fuel in the car.

There's a gas station a block from my house that has diesel, but it would be nice to know that I'm relatively clear to go on a 6 hour drive and won't run out of fuel (of course, this thing can go like 500-600 miles on a single tank).

thesloppy
10-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Had a 2000 Golf Turbo for a while, I am definitely in the 'love' VWs camp. As far as sub-compacts go, the Golf is pretty luxurious (relative to all the other hatchbacks, which admittedly isn't much competition), and the Turbo was an absolute blast to drive...but I can't speak on the TDI. I didn't have any sizable problems with my Golf before I got rid of it, but I remember hearing a lot about issues with the electronics, and that apparently was the most troublesome area for new Golfs at the time, FWIW.

DaddyTorgo
10-09-2009, 02:03 PM
i'm hoping to get out for some car-shopping and test-driving this weekend.

leaning towards a hybrid - i like the gas mileage and the idea of being more green and such. going to hit up a toyota place and see how i feel about the prius versus like a hybrid camry. the camry is certainly roomier and more luxerious than the prius, but you lose ~15mpg for that. prius may be too small for me anyways...i'm a big guy (6ft, ~250 right now...could lose 40-50lbs though)

stevew
10-09-2009, 02:17 PM
There's a gas station a block from my house that has diesel, but it would be nice to know that I'm relatively clear to go on a 6 hour drive and won't run out of fuel (of course, this thing can go like 500-600 miles on a single tank).

Oh, I'd have to think you're okay then. Off of the highways, anyways, they almost always have some sort of diesel available. I don't think you'd find a bad patch anywhere in the US, really. Worst case scenerio, you're probably going to stop in a car trip every 300 or so miles, anyways. Just look for a diesel station when you get around halfway.

One thing that would scare the fuck out of me is that I would accidentally put regular gas in the thing, just due to force of habit.

stevew
10-09-2009, 02:18 PM
i'm hoping to get out for some car-shopping and test-driving this weekend.

leaning towards a hybrid - i like the gas mileage and the idea of being more green and such. going to hit up a toyota place and see how i feel about the prius versus like a hybrid camry. the camry is certainly roomier and more luxerious than the prius, but you lose ~15mpg for that. prius may be too small for me anyways...i'm a big guy (6ft, ~250 right now...could lose 40-50lbs though)

Eh, I thought my parents Prius(last generation though) had plenty of room in it. I'm 6'4" and pushing 3 bills.

DaddyTorgo
10-09-2009, 02:32 PM
Eh, I thought my parents Prius(last generation though) had plenty of room in it. I'm 6'4" and pushing 3 bills.

cool...i didn't really think it'd be a problem, but i saw something about that on the interwebz.

question is do i want to sacrifice on the green/mpg thing to go for the camry which i can get more sorts of goodies in

lordscarlet
10-09-2009, 02:47 PM
Had a 2000 Golf Turbo for a while, I am definitely in the 'love' VWs camp. As far as sub-compacts go, the Golf is pretty luxurious (relative to all the other hatchbacks, which admittedly isn't much competition), and the Turbo was an absolute blast to drive...but I can't speak on the TDI. I didn't have any sizable problems with my Golf before I got rid of it, but I remember hearing a lot about issues with the electronics, and that apparently was the most troublesome area for new Golfs at the time, FWIW.

The relative luxiriousness is definitely why I am drawn to it. I think the only cars sold in the US that fit that description are the Golf/GTI, the Audi A3 and the mini (which is just a little too small in the cargo capacity and passenger room department).


One thing that would scare the fuck out of me is that I would accidentally put regular gas in the thing, just due to force of habit.

Great. I wasn't evene worrieda bout that before! :)

Eh, I thought my parents Prius(last generation though) had plenty of room in it. I'm 6'4" and pushing 3 bills.

I have a good friend that is 6'6" and loves his Prius.

stevew
10-09-2009, 07:56 PM
I guess. DT with the hybrid you have to factor a bunch of shit into the equation. Like how much you care about the environment. How much you drive. How much you think the price of fuel will increase.

I mean my friend has a civic Si, it is a kickass car. He gets 35ish and has serious power. The sedan roughly costs the same as a Prius.

stevew
10-09-2009, 08:00 PM
It is Standard though.

DaddyTorgo
10-09-2009, 08:11 PM
I guess. DT with the hybrid you have to factor a bunch of shit into the equation. Like how much you care about the environment. How much you drive. How much you think the price of fuel will increase.

I mean my friend has a civic Si, it is a kickass car. He gets 35ish and has serious power. The sedan roughly costs the same as a Prius.

I <3 the environment. I don't really tend to drive a whole hell of a lot. I don't do standard, that's for sure. Haha.

I'm not necessarily super in-need of serious horsepower IMO. Frankly, for a 30-year old guy I think I really drive like an old lady. Multiple speeding tickets when I was in my early 20's really slowed me down. That plus really disliking ending up in accidents and having to pay for body work.

Ryan S
10-10-2009, 06:52 AM
Does anyone own any of the small, sub compact cars? In particular my wife are leaning toward the Honda Fit and I was curious if we have any real world experience with such cars here on the board. The Fit looks great on paper, but we have yet to test drive it.


If you are curious about the Honda Fit you might want to search UK car websites for the Honda Jazz as it is the same car with a different name. I don't think the diesel is sold in the UK at the moment.

If you do look at UK review websites, remember that the US gallon is smaller than the UK gallon, so you will need to do some conversions.

40mpg UK = 33mpg US
50mpg UK = 41.6mpg US
60mpg UK = 50mpg US

lordscarlet
10-10-2009, 07:47 PM
If you are curious about the Honda Fit you might want to search UK car websites for the Honda Jazz as it is the same car with a different name. I don't think the diesel is sold in the UK at the moment.

If you do look at UK review websites, remember that the US gallon is smaller than the UK gallon, so you will need to do some conversions.

40mpg UK = 33mpg US
50mpg UK = 41.6mpg US
60mpg UK = 50mpg US

The diesel is the Golf, not the Fit. :)

Ryan S
10-10-2009, 08:22 PM
Oops, I just looked at the first post and hit reply!

A UK review of the new Golf TDI - http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsHistory/Volkswagen-Golf-2.0-TDI-140-GT/237767/