Nobody has interacted with Gellar yet, except Travis. I don't know if dexter actually saw him yesterday...he could have just responded to random noise.

That professor admitted to having sex with Gellar. I don't see how they can conceivably fake that.

That he had died at some point after they hooked up?

Dola. "not real" like Harry isn't real vs. completely fictitious

Nobody has interacted with Gellar yet, except Travis. I don't know if dexter actually saw him yesterday...he could have just responded to random noise.

Exactly. I'm saying when Gellar went missing 3 years ago, he actually died there, or at some point after, and Travis(Hanks) is dealing with split personality. His other personality is Gellar.

And with that theory, Dexter saw nothing, he reacted to Hanks looking up at the 2nd floor.

I just rewatched the last episode and I take it back. stevew is right on this one. I get totally where he is coming from now and I agree that Gellnar is dead.

I'm also on board with the Geller that Travis is working with not being real, and in the next few episodes we'll probably find out that Geller is either dead or he'll be found alive outside of Florida and it will be clear that he couldn't have done the Doomsday killings.

There have been a lot of subtle hints from early on that he isn't real. One was when they were at the restaurant earlier in the season, Geller had no food or drink in front of him and the waitress only talked to Travis. Then when the waitress was tied up she only looked at Travis, not Geller even when he was touching her head. And he seems to have been standing outside Travis' sister's house for quite a while without her noticing him.

Another thing was that the Geller described by his former teachers assistant seemed to be different from the one Travis was working with. She said he was mostly an academic about revelations, and Geller would have had to have undergone a rather intense change to go from hooking up with a series grad students to killing the waitress because she'd slept with Travis.

Edit: Also, it doesn't seem like anyone has seen Geller yet other than Travis. The man who escaped the chains ran into the room were Geller had been working and didn't see him. When Dexter went after him he seemed to just be following Travis' gaze, and it seems unlikely Geller would have been able to escape out the window and get away from the church that quickly. Lastly the woman who Travis was released said she was held captive by two men but she was blindfolded the whole time and probably just assumed Geller's existence from Travis talking to him and calling him, "Professor."

I'm also on board with the Geller that Travis is working with not being real, and in the next few episodes we'll probably find out that Geller is either dead or he'll be found alive outside of Florida and it will be clear that he couldn't have done the Doomsday killings.

There have been a lot of subtle hints from early on that he isn't real. One was when they were at the restaurant earlier in the season, Geller had no food or drink in front of him and the waitress only talked to Travis. Then when the waitress was tied up she only looked at Travis, not Geller even when he was touching her head. And he seems to have been standing outside Travis' sister's house for quite a while without her noticing him.

Another thing was that the Geller described by his former teachers assistant seemed to be different from the one Travis was working with. She said he was mostly an academic about revelations, and Geller would have had to have undergone a rather intense change to go from hooking up with a series grad students to killing the waitress because she'd slept with Travis.

Edit: Also, it doesn't seem like anyone has seen Geller yet other than Travis. The man who escaped the chains ran into the room were Geller had been working and didn't see him. When Dexter went after him he seemed to just be following Travis' gaze, and it seems unlikely Geller would have been able to escape out the window and get away from the church that quickly. Lastly the woman who Travis was released said she was held captive by two men but she was blindfolded the whole time and probably just assumed Geller's existence from Travis talking to him and calling him, "Professor."

I thought Geller had a cup of coffee in front of him at the diner. If not...then yeah - I'm way more on-board with this line of thinking...for sure.

Supposedly the "is he real or not" issue is resolved on Sunday.

I thought Geller had a cup of coffee in front of him at the diner. If not...then yeah - I'm way more on-board with this line of thinking...for sure.

I'm pretty sure he had nothing infront of him at the coffee shop. I thought it was very weird that the waitress completely ignored him there.

I do remember when they were at the bar, that Gellar did have a drink infront of him, but i don't think that means anything.

I'm pretty sure he had nothing infront of him at the coffee shop. I thought it was very weird that the waitress completely ignored him there.

I do remember when they were at the bar, that Gellar did have a drink infront of him, but i don't think that means anything.

I do think the waitress completely ignoring him there is more important than him not having anything.

One more thing to note, Travis' face looked pretty good at the end of the episode for having been hit in the face with a shovel.

I do think the waitress completely ignoring him there is more important than him not having anything.

One more thing to note, Travis' face looked pretty good at the end of the episode for having been hit in the face with a shovel.


HAHA, i forgot about that. I noticed it during the episode, but it has escaped me since. There way to much evidence for him to be "real and active" for a lack of a better term.

Well there you go! I have definitely enjoyed this season quite a bit so far.

There were some awful moments in this episode. Really bad writing. The elevator was a joke, and why wasn't Dexter, who knew the meet was at the church, there waiting for Gellar already, hiding in the shadows, you know, like he always does!!!!!!!

It's time for Deb to find out and end the show. I'm hoping that's next season.

I wish they would have not killed off Brother Sam. He was a great character.

The Quinn/Waitress scene was hilarious

There were some awful moments in this episode. Really bad writing. The elevator was a joke, and why wasn't Dexter, who knew the meet was at the church, there waiting for Gellar already, hiding in the shadows, you know, like he always does!!!!!!!

It's time for Deb to find out and end the show. I'm hoping that's next season.

Not likely. The show has been renewed for two more seasons. It is still by far Showtime's highest rated show. I agree that this season has been pretty weak, but I think it's mostly just a bad storyline they picked and there's no reason they can't get things back to normal next year. It is funny that the season with Julia Stiles was much better than the one with Edward James Olmos. I wouldn't have called that.

Seems like they need to get away from the Dexter stalks one serial killer a season thing.

I wasn't really buying the Geller isn't real theory, but shows what I know. :)

It's time for Deb to find out and end the show. I'm hoping that's next season.

I hope that Deb finds out before the end of the show, I think that could be an interesting story.

Let's get LaGuerta on his table first.

Let's get LaGuerta on his table first.

Hell to the ya

I don't know if I'm going to be a Showtime sucker again....especially if they don't kill LaGuerta. Dare I say I wish Olmos was still around. This jihad is too convenient.

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about the ending already... I didn't see that coming and can't wait to see how it plays out next season.

Didn't see it coming either. The show was renewed for 2 more seasons after this so I figured they'd wait until the end of next season to use that reveal.

People aren't talking about it as much because this season wasn't good at all. The show hasn't been good since Season 4. Maybe the writers thought they had to use that ending to suck people in for another year. I don't know what Deb was doing at the church. It will probably be another thing they overlook like a couple episodes ago when Dexter "anonymously" calls 911 from his phone as if they can't trace it. Very sloppy writing this year, but I'll watch for another year just to see how this plays out.

Just watched it. Zoinks - guess they can't really like...do any sort of trickery to worm their way out of that one.

That's going to be a hell of a thing for next season. Winner at the end of the season there, that's for sure.

I don't think that can save what was otherwise a pretty poor season. I had a feeling they were moving to that sort of resolution towards the end of the season, but it was interesting.

Oh Dexter, first, the actual episode. Bad finale, bad season. Now, Miami metro doesn't clear crime scenes anymore, they stand around waiting for Dexter. At least they didn't have him swimming all the way back to shore.

I know Dexter is invincible, you know Dexter is invincible, the whole audience knows. Nothing will happen to the star. I hate that it seems like the characters know.

That said, great ending, didn't see it coming, loved that she saw, and I can't wait to see where it goes. They still have to deal with the weird, video game making, forensic assistant guy too, which is a story line I like.

I don't know what Deb was doing at the church.

Deb asked Dex to a final sweep of the church, looking for evidence. He told her he would get to it after Harrison's play. She knew where he was, and wanted to tell him of her newly undying passionate love for him, which would have been kinda awkward. Way more awkward then finding out he's a serial killer!

That said, great ending, didn't see it coming, loved that she saw, and I can't wait to see where it goes. They still have to deal with the weird, video game making, forensic assistant guy too, which is a story line I like.

After Deb told Dexter the sweep the church and then Dexter said he was going to kill Travis there I was pretty sure Deb would walk in at some point when Dexter had Travis, though I was hoping it would end quite so abruptly after she did.

And I think nothing is really going to come from Masuka's intern, it seemed like he might know something about Dexter earlier though at the end of the season it made it seem more like he just idolized him from seeing him work and now wants to follow in his footsteps instead of making the game.

I don't think that can save what was otherwise a pretty poor season. I had a feeling they were moving to that sort of resolution towards the end of the season, but it was interesting.

I'd hoped coming into this episode that Deb would make a power play on LaGuerta with the knowledge that she took part in covering up the hooker murder (not for Deb to move up herself, just to take down LaGuerta). Now with LaGuerta playing nice all of a sudden there doesn't even seem to be any chance that Dexter will end up killing her. :(

And I think nothing is really going to come from Masuka's intern, it seemed like he might know something about Dexter earlier though at the end of the season it made it seem more like he just idolized him from seeing him work and now wants to follow in his footsteps instead of making the game.

I was thinking that the intern will essentially end up mirroring Travis from this season. Dexter is his inspiration (indirectly as he does not seemingly know that Dex is a serial killer) the way that Professor Geller was Travis'. Plus, depending on how horrible the series is going to wrap up, they could possibly pin some of Dex's killings on intern as he'll have insider knowledge of some of the killings and possesses evidence from previous serial killer cases and his game which demonstrate his obsession with it.

In my opinion, this is a harder series to end than Sopranos was. I thought they had taken a good turn this season when Dex's other dark passenger took over which would've helped to make him very unlikable to the viewer but they keep working to make him affable. I'm not sure that a viewer wants to see Dexter put down or put behind bars at this point, he's still too likable.

. Now with LaGuerta playing nice all of a sudden there doesn't even seem to be any chance that Dexter will end up killing her. :(

Well, according to the code, unless she kills somebody, and gets away with it, he can't kill her. Ofcourse, Dex doesn't really follow the code to closely anymore.

I think that Deb finding out was necessary to shake up the show a bit.

And I think nothing is really going to come from Masuka's intern, it seemed like he might know something about Dexter earlier though at the end of the season it made it seem more like he just idolized him from seeing him work and now wants to follow in his footsteps instead of making the game.

I think the opposite. The intern when pitching his idea about the video game about playing as a serial killer. He mentions the worlds most notorious serial killers, and the Bay Harbor Butcher. Why him? The public basically didn’t care anymore once they learned that the butcher was killing other criminals that deserved to be killed. So why mention the Bay Harbor Butcher at all? On top of that when Dexter didn’t seem to care at all about the video game the intern then became extremely upset, IMO because he was telling Dexter that he knows who he is. And what about the hand. That was from the Ice Truck Killer. The Ice Truck Killer was Dexters brother. This intern knows exctly who Dexter is and what he is. I just hope that this will not be a repeat of season 3.

Another thought. Will Dexter have Deb believe that Travis is/was Trinity? They brought that storyline back this season for an episode. If Deb believes that Travis was also Trinity, she will turn the other way so to speak. Trinity killed Lundy who Deb was in love with. If she does believe that Travis is Trinity IMO it will be a shitty way to start next season, That storyline will be dead by episode 2.

I also wonder if Dexter took a picture of the painting on the wall. He had his camera. It would justify in Deb's mind that Trinity was back to get kill Dexter.

Another thought. Will Dexter have Deb believe that Travis is/was Trinity? They brought that storyline back this season for an episode. If Deb believes that Travis was also Trinity, she will turn the other way so to speak. Trinity killed Lundy who Deb was in love with. If she does believe that Travis is Trinity IMO it will be a shitty way to start next season, That storyline will be dead by episode 2.

I also wonder if Dexter took a picture of the painting on the wall. He had his camera. It would justify in Deb's mind that Trinity was back to get kill Dexter.

I don't see how Dexter could convince Deb that Travis was Trinity. Not only do they know who Trinity was, but Travis is probably too young and it would mean Deb had to believe that Travis went to Nebraska in the middle of his killing spree as DDK.

I think the opposite. The intern when pitching his idea about the video game about playing as a serial killer. He mentions the worlds most notorious serial killers, and the Bay Harbor Butcher. Why him? The public basically didn’t care anymore once they learned that the butcher was killing other criminals that deserved to be killed. So why mention the Bay Harbor Butcher at all? On top of that when Dexter didn’t seem to care at all about the video game the intern then became extremely upset, IMO because he was telling Dexter that he knows who he is. And what about the hand. That was from the Ice Truck Killer. The Ice Truck Killer was Dexters brother. This intern knows exctly who Dexter is and what he is. I just hope that this will not be a repeat of season 3.

Wasn't really what I saw from it. It seemed like the intern was there to do research on crime investigations for his video game, which was about serial killers because of a fascination he had with them (thus purchasing the hand from the Ice Truck Killer case). He looked up to Dexter because of what he saw Dexter do at crime scenes, and then when finding out what Dexter thought of his game it caused him to reevaluate his obsession with serial killers (this also causing him to give up the hand and send it to Dexter so it could be returned to the department). At the end of the season he's given up on the video game and is looking to work with Miami Metro because he now wants to do what Dexter does. I really don't think there was that much to indicate he knew about Dexter and will be shocked if that's the story line next season.

I think the most likely thing that Dexter will do is tell Deb that he knows she can be okay with killing people who deserve it because of what happens at the end of last season. It will be easy to convince Deb that he's the one who was helping Lumen and it was Dexter that Deb let go after he'd killed Jordan Chase.

As far as the hand, why send it to Dexter and not Masuka? Masuka signed it out to try and impress the chick intern. If the guy just wanted it to make its way back into the department, seems to me it would have been smarter to send it back to Masuka so that he could cover his own ass. The intern also drew something on the inside of the hand before sending it to Dexter. Why put some kind of marking on the hand?

I think the most likely thing that Dexter will do is tell Deb that he knows she can be okay with killing people who deserve it because of what happens at the end of last season. It will be easy to convince Deb that he's the one who was helping Lumen and it was Dexter that Deb let go after he'd killed Jordan Chase.

I then predict Deb and Dex will enter into a dangerous sexual relationship.

My prediction (albeit a bit far-fetched) is that the intern will actually frame Dexter for his (the intern's) set of serial killings. Masuka said he'll keep throwing him some work as a consultant which means that he can tamper with/plant evidence framing Dex. I think it would be interesting to see Dexter get framed for murders he did not do, especially since Deb has now seen him murder somebody so she'll have no idea what to believe.

It seemed odd that Harry wasn't in this episode, unless i missed him on a rewatch w/ my tivo.

I'm sorry, but this show has gotten hilariously bad.

Incest thing is just awkward and stupid. I don't care if he was adopted, still don't need to see it. I cringe when I do.

Let's leave the incest to Game of Thrones.

Oh, and filming for Season 7 begins in a couple weeks.

So now that this was conveniently bumped....

Before last season, it seems like they went to a lot of trouble to intro the Chicago cop. And then did virtually nothing with him all year. I have to think that he will play a pretty big part in the next year. I guess I can't see him being just window dressing, even if his character was brought in to replace Deb.

Also, I wonder if the shit with Louis, Matsuzaka's intern, will get crazy.

What if Dex kills Deb? That'd be a hella heel-turn!

What if Dex kills Deb? That'd be a hella heel-turn!

I would be very surprised. That would go against the code that has been central to the show since its inception. They wpuld have to have Dexter take a fundemental turn as a person.

I would be very surprised. That would go against the code that has been central to the show since its inception. They wpuld have to have Dexter take a fundemental turn as a person.

Unless Deb either somehow becomes a serial killer or was really really convincingly framed for it.

Not saying it'd be simple to write, but it would be a hell of a twist!

I would be very surprised. That would go against the code that has been central to the show since its inception. They wpuld have to have Dexter take a fundemental turn as a person.

You mean the code Dexter has been ignoring for a few seasons now?

I read somewhere, maybe it was even a hint from one of the producers, certainly not a "spoiler" or anything, that the more likely direction is that this new intimacy and honesty in their relationship could lead too...more intimacy in their relationship. Which I don't think anyone wants to see. But I'd be surprised if that isn't at least explored or teased. Whatever though, I'll be on board for every episode no matter want, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it regardless of the quality. I'm hooked!

If Dex was gonna kill Deb, they'd have done that in the season finale. Too hard to hide a secret like that between seasons, especially if Jennifer Carpenter started turning up in casting announcements for fall pilots.

I think the season was awful, but the final twist was very promising for next season. However, if it means they start fucking, then I'm out.

Yes. I don't know whose idea it was to put in the faux-incest storyline, but dear god, bag it.

And I want to see Dexter ultimately get caught.

Sneak peak first 2 minutes of season 7

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A little more on the next season from a Showtime behind the scenes preview. I'm not discussing anything outside the preview, but, just in case I like how Deb appears to be putting the pieces together a little. I was worried that this would all be disposed of as a, "ya I killed that one guy because I got mad" kind of thing, and everyone moves on, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Even better, no hint of fucking.

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I was hoping Dexter would go for more of the, "Remember Jordan Price?" angle.

Bump for season premiere tonight. I'm looking forward to it, it's the only current show I actually watch at the moment.

Bump for season premiere tonight. I'm looking forward to it, it's the only current show I actually watch at the moment.

wooo! thanks for the reminder!

The show has dipped in quality since Season 4 but they had a good end to the last episode of last season. Looking forward to see how they handle that with 2 seasons left in the series.

As long as that last scene wasn't a dream sequence, things moved along much faster than I thought they would.

As long as that last scene wasn't a dream sequence, things moved along much faster than I thought they would.

Yeah. I'm really glad they didn't drag it out, and just got to it.

Awesome finish to Ep 1

The premiere was certainly better than any episode last season. Hell, even Laguerta wasn't annoying. If they're gonna have her investigating things to try and clear Doakes' name (which I thought was gonna happen a while ago since she never seemed to believe he was guilty), then that's much better use of her than just randomly being a bitch to Deb or involved in storylines completely unconnected to the main plot.

Yeah. I'm really glad they didn't drag it out, and just got to it.

My thoughts exactly.

I don't get what the creepy intern guy's angle is.

awesome ending!

Very nice. I think this will be a very interesting season, as long as we don't see them making sweet love.

The show has really changed. Dexter used to be so careful and thorough and now he's killing people in an airport. I like how this season is setting up. Deb looks hotter this season.

Incest, that isn't even blood incest, is worse than murder? I hope Dexter bends Deb over a kill table.

The show has really changed. Dexter used to be so careful and thorough and now he's killing people in an airport. I like how this season is setting up. Deb looks hotter this season.

I really did not like the airport kill, though thought the episode as a whole was good. Not only does it seem out of character for him it goes a bit beyond the normal amount of suspension of disbelief for the show.

Also really curious about the former intern being he seems like the kind of guy who would react the exact same way if someone else used his computer and cancelling credit cards seems well beyond the typical way of getting back at someone. Looking forward to finding out exactly what his angle is.

It seemed like killing off Mike was necessary, his questioning of the suicide and no car around could easily have lead to him seeing Deb buying gas at the nearby gas station just before the fire.

I just assumed that Mike died so that he could do a full character arc on Sons of Anarchy. They also needed a way to incorporate the Eastern European gangster story. I'm assuming Jason Gedrick(from Murder One) will have a pretty major arc this season.

I just assumed that Mike died so that he could do a full character arc on Sons of Anarchy. They also needed a way to incorporate the Eastern European gangster story. I'm assuming Jason Gedrick(from Murder One) will have a pretty major arc this season.

No clue on any of that, but my thought when he started questioning the suicide explaination I didn't think he would end up living much longer. He seemed like he'd find somwthing bad and was wondering if Dexter would have to take care of him before he was shot by the gangster. I was thinking he would follow up on Travis not having a car there and eventually check the security footage of the nearby gas station.

oh, yeah, agreed that his time on this earth was short once he started looking for the car.

I just assumed that Mike died so that he could do a full character arc on Sons of Anarchy. They also needed a way to incorporate the Eastern European gangster story. I'm assuming Jason Gedrick(from Iron Eagle) will have a pretty major arc this season.

fixed

hated the airport kill, liked the episode

Is anyone else disappointed Dexter hasn't mentioned Jordan Chase to Deb yet?

Or Trinity.

Im not digging how she just accepts everything without him really qualifying what he does. I am liking the season so far, but im wary of whats to come.

I think she's accepting because she wants to believe that she can help him change, she loves him. She's not doing him a favor.

Or Trinity.

That eventually, though I'm not sure, "Oh, it's sort of my fault Rita got killed," is the best angle with Deb right now. You would think Dexter would go with, "Deb, in the past you haven't had a problem with what I do," to convince her to be on his side. Just like Deb should be asking, "Wait, if you're the Bay Harbor Butcher then what happened to Doaks?"

Also I find it kind of weird that Dexter would go live with Deb and not take Harrison with him.

Also I find it kind of weird that Dexter would go live with Deb and not take Harrison with him.

My wife and I were saying the same thing. That seems very odd.

Yeah the Doaks thing makes Deb's actions very problematic. She was pretty close to him. She met his family, who now think he is a serial killer. The fact she could clear his name but is protecting her brother instead is pretty shitty. I love the new twist on the season as it changes the stakes after the shittiness of last season, but this is a pretty big plot hole for me.

My wife and I were saying the same thing. That seems very odd.

We thought the same thing as well

Yeah the Doaks thing makes Deb's actions very problematic. She was pretty close to him. She met his family, who now think he is a serial killer. The fact she could clear his name but is protecting her brother instead is pretty shitty. I love the new twist on the season as it changes the stakes after the shittiness of last season, but this is a pretty big plot hole for me.

I don't really have a problem with Deb choosing to protect Dexter rather than clearing Doakes' name, but there are some questions that it Deb would probably be asking. "If you're the Butcher then what exactly happened to Doakes and where did the evidence that he was the Butcher come from?" seem like a couple of obvious ones.

I am looking forward to the conversation that goes something like, "We really need to catch this fucker who killed Mike," followed by, "Oooh, about that that..."

Thank god that they killed off that Louis guy. He really sucked.

Yeah, I'm glad they ended that Louis storyline. I thought it was going to be something big but it turned out to be just a prank war so he had to go. I liked the serial killer with the fun house. Seemed a little like Silence of the Lambs with Deb going in there alone.

Deb looks hotter this season.

Was thinking the same thing.

Tried to figure out what it is..... she's never really done much for me in the past. like a 5/10, but this season she jumped up to a 7.


Hair stylist, color.
Wardrobe.

Plus, shes looking much more tan than I remember.

Im certain they made an effort to do so with the storyline, but couldnt quite put my finger on it. She still doesnt do it for me, prob because everytime I see her it stands out that her right eye is larger than her left. Freaks me out.

I wonder how the mood on the set actually is, considering that Hall and Carpenter got divorced last December. Certainly seems very odd and unique in regards to the cast of a show. I do agree she's getting hotter, but she could use a boob job(a stealth one, like 1-2 sizes bigger, but not overwhelming).

The show has really changed. Dexter used to be so careful and thorough and now he's killing people in an airport. I like how this season is setting up. Deb looks hotter this season.

That may not be good, Rita was the last character to suddenly get hotter and she ended up dying at the end of that season. :eek:

I wonder how the mood on the set actually is, considering that Hall and Carpenter got divorced last December. Certainly seems very odd and unique in regards to the cast of a show.

The divorce finalized last December, but I think that they had separated about 18 months before then, so they have been dealing with this on set for a long time.

Some of my thoughts from the end of last season that seem to be holding up.


I think the opposite. The intern when pitching his idea about the video game about playing as a serial killer. He mentions the worlds most notorious serial killers, and the Bay Harbor Butcher. Why him? The public basically didn’t care anymore once they learned that the butcher was killing other criminals that deserved to be killed. So why mention the Bay Harbor Butcher at all? On top of that when Dexter didn’t seem to care at all about the video game the intern then became extremely upset, IMO because he was telling Dexter that he knows who he is. And what about the hand. That was from the Ice Truck Killer. The Ice Truck Killer was Dexters brother. This intern knows exctly who Dexter is and what he is. I just hope that this will not be a repeat of season 3.

Another thought. Will Dexter have Deb believe that Travis is/was Trinity? They brought that storyline back this season for an episode. If Deb believes that Travis was also Trinity, she will turn the other way so to speak. Trinity killed Lundy who Deb was in love with. If she does believe that Travis is Trinity IMO it will be a shitty way to start next season, That storyline will be dead by episode 2.

I also wonder if Dexter took a picture of the painting on the wall. He had his camera. It would justify in Deb's mind that Trinity was back to get kill Dexter.

As far as the hand, why send it to Dexter and not Masuka? Masuka signed it out to try and impress the chick intern. If the guy just wanted it to make its way back into the department, seems to me it would have been smarter to send it back to Masuka so that he could cover his own ass. The intern also drew something on the inside of the hand before sending it to Dexter. Why put some kind of marking on the hand?

I wonder how the mood on the set actually is, considering that Hall and Carpenter got divorced last December. Certainly seems very odd and unique in regards to the cast of a show. I do agree she's getting hotter, but she could use a boob job(a stealth one, like 1-2 sizes bigger, but not overwhelming).

I totally agree about the boob job which surprises me considering I'm usually against fake titties.

Dola.

Also, with all of it's flaws, Dexter is still the best show on TV (just ahead of Breaking Bad).

Some of my thoughts from the end of last season that seem to be holding up.

Was I missing something, or did it not seem like there was anything to indicate that Brian had any idea Dexter was a killer? If he did I'd think exposing him would be much better revenge than sinking his boat.

Dola.

Also, with all of it's flaws, Dexter is still the best show on TV (just ahead of Breaking Bad).

Not even close

I was kinda hoping Deb would get killed last night to shake things up a little.

There was little doubt that Arthur Mitchell was trinity.

Dola.

Also, with all of it's flaws, Dexter is still the best show on TV (just ahead of Breaking Bad).

I love Dexter, but even at its best in the early seasons, it didn't hold a candle to Homeland.

There was little doubt that Arthur Mitchell was trinity.

Especially after the "Trinity struck again," plot line last season. I don't think anyone would believe Travis took a break from the Dooms Day Killings to go kill someone in Nebraska.

I wonder how the mood on the set actually is, considering that Hall and Carpenter got divorced last December. Certainly seems very odd and unique in regards to the cast of a show. I do agree she's getting hotter, but she could use a boob job(a stealth one, like 1-2 sizes bigger, but not overwhelming).

I am sad that Boobs the Waitress got killed off. Why couldn't Deb have saved her? :(

This season seems better anyways. I'm more interested than I was last year. I hope Lumen comes back but I doubt she will.

what a great ending to last nights episode!

Was coming on here to say that exactly. I wish Dex would make her do it, but that won't happen.

Pretty good episode this week. I could do without Cody and Astor coming back but that scene with Dexter and Issac in the bar was really good. I gotta think Deb is gonna kill someone at some point, either Hannah or Laguerta.

Every scene with Dexter and Isaac has been gold. So much so that I'm willing to look past the fact that a Ukrainian has a British accent for some reason.

Ya, the whole Laguerta thing is kind of going under the radar. They're not spending a ton of time on her, but she just about has shit figured out. I wonder if her and Isaac's stories tie together at some point, or if Dexter maybe disposes of Isaac and then deals with Laguerta at the end of the season.

Pretty good episode this week. I could do without Cody and Astor coming back but that scene with Dexter and Issac in the bar was really good. I gotta think Deb is gonna kill someone at some point, either Hannah or Laguerta.

I think he'll end up killing Laguerta using Hannah's, "Survival of the fittest," justification to override his code. Kind of expecting Deb to kill Hannah too.

I expect Laguerta is gonna die. Either at the end of this season or early in the next.

This has been the best season in a long time. I think they've handled multiple difficult scenes and situations deftly.

I'm liking Laguerta so much this season that I almost forgot that shes been a useless and annoying character for so many seasons now.

The Laguerta being in the background makes it feel as if it might be the basis somehow of the next (final?) season. Where, perhaps, he's found out, flees, surrenders, etc.

Damn...he was a great character.

Sure was. The show is best when it has a good foil for Dexter- Doakes, Trinity, Isaac. Not sure if the club owner will go after Dexter now that Isaac is dead. Maybe that's how the Quinn/Stripper storyline will tie together.

I can finally participate in this thread, having watched the entire series through Showtime on Demand over the past few months. This was the first episode I watched live.

I think I'll go through this thread at some point to see what you guys have thought about the series.

The Laguerta being in the background makes it feel as if it might be the basis somehow of the next (final?) season. Where, perhaps, he's found out, flees, surrenders, etc.

I think this will be the plan as well.

Dexter has to die at the conclusion of this series I would imagine. I was worrying they weren't going to be able to pull it off after the last couple seasons, but this season has restored my faith.

I think any of those conclusions will be tough to pull off and have them feel real, when so much of the series involved a suspension of disbelief that someone could get away with this, with so many murders/disappearances taking place in Miami (maybe you guys have talked about it in this thread before). It worked as a plot in S2 with Doakes but we're so far beyond that at this point.

I'll be fine with whatever we get as long as it's not American Psycho-inspired.

BTW, my favorite moment of the series came during this season, when LaGuerta was digging around the recent disappearances that seemed BHB related. Deb got the list, Dexter said one of his kills was on there, and he tracked the guy down at a wedding. He said no one saw him, he blended in...and then Deb spots Dexter in a picture, holding hands with the bride while basically dancing the Hora.

Dexter has to die at the conclusion of this series I would imagine. I was worrying they weren't going to be able to pull it off after the last couple seasons, but this season has restored my faith.

The scene from the last episode where Dexter was talking about how much death comforts him might be this show's version of that scene with Tony Soprano and Bobby on the boat where they talk about death being like "going to black" or something.

I think it would wrap the series up pretty well if it ends with Dexter getting the lethal injection witnessed by Harry(not the kid), onlookers, and a mysterious looking teenage boy.

I can finally participate in this thread, having watched the entire series through Showtime on Demand over the past few months. This was the first episode I watched live.

I think I'll go through this thread at some point to see what you guys have thought about the series.

It's really hard when you binge on a show like that, and then suddenly have to slow down to real time. I experienced something like that with True Blood this summer.

It's amazing how much better this show has been all year. I'd say 1/2 were easily the best. This is at least as good as the Lithgow season(4, which I've thought is much better over time) and miles better than season 6(which was basically lolbad)

I'm actually ok if it goes more than 1 more season.

I thought the Lithgow season was near the top. Trinity and Lundy were good characters. I'd put the seasons in order of quality as 1, 4, 2, 7, 3, 5, 6. Didn't really like 5 or 6 so there's a big drop off there.

Fucking Laguerta

This season has been really really good.

I guess we're clearly in the endgame now? I hope the arrest in the preview is just an imagined scenario, but who knows.

I'm in line with the people that think that Deb spiked her own water.

So...interesting. Seems like it could be a complete reset to the show.

So all Dexter needed to do was recover the bullet fired from Deb's gun then shoot Leguerta through the same entry point with Estrada's gun and they're in the clear.

Of course Deb might go crazy and Hannah could try too kill her, but they should get away with the murder.

I doubt Hannah resurfaces.

Thought Deb would end up killing either Laguerta or Hannah for Dexter. Didn't like the way it happened though. Dexter kidnapped Estrada in daylight in a crowded park, then Laguerta goes to the docks in an obvious setup with no backup. She knows what Dexter is and still went by herself? And Hannah breaks free from the hospital with nobody guarding her. Now they've got a dead police captain with Deb's bullet in her. Hope they end this well next season.

Also, I think them making a big deal about Angel's retirement means that he'll be the one to take on Dexter next season. He was Laguerta's closest friend. Dexter/Deb will set it up to look like Estrada killed her but Angel will be the only one to question it.

Thought Deb would end up killing either Laguerta or Hannah for Dexter. Didn't like the way it happened though. Dexter kidnapped Estrada in daylight in a crowded park, then Laguerta goes to the docks in an obvious setup with no backup. She knows what Dexter is and still went by herself? And Hannah breaks free from the hospital with nobody guarding her. Now they've got a dead police captain with Deb's bullet in her. Hope they end this well next season.

I'm really hoping that after faking the Doakes boathouse with faking fingerprints, faking fingerprints to set up Laguerta, and everything else Dexter did to cover his tracks that he doesn't do something like leave behind the bullet from Deb's gun.

Though I was surprised by Dexter's bet that Laguerta would come without any backup.

In the past and even earlier in this episode Deb has proven to be a nervous and not so good liar, as well as very emotional. I'd think if they stay consistent with her character it will be hard for her to maintain composure next season after the trauma of the situation

Really underwhelmed by the finale, played out exactly like I thought it would, all the way down to the last scene. Still, a fantastic season.

I always fucking hated how LaGuerta would accent up the dialogue when she was talking to Angel but then otherwise would sound like a white chick. Like i couldn't tell if it was subconscious horrible acting by the lady who plays her, or it was intentional. Either way it was annoying. I'd actually have preferred to see them frame Maria for murdering the guy instead of just killing her. I think she needed to suffer in jail for the way that she acted to the other characters throughout the series.

Anyways, I'm kind of glad they didn't try to frame Louis as the Butcher. Even if that would have easily worked within the story line.

This season was a big rebound after some down seasons. Very interested to see what happens next season. It's nice that Deb is suffering adverse consequences for hiding Dexter's secrets.

Season 8 starts on June 30. I guess they are trying to finish up filming early so the cast can move onto new shows for the fall?

Haven't decided whether I should be happy it's going to be earlier or worried that maybe they just wanna get in and get out and mail the end in

Final season preview:

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New trailer. Really looking forward to this.

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wow! That looked pretty sweet. Too bad we have to wait until the end of June for it to start.

Season premiere tonight.

I've invested in the previous 7 seasons, so i have to stick with it tell the end, but thank god the mercy killing is coming.

That was not a good episode.

There WERE 2 characters I felt have been portrayed in a realistic manner, and now it's down to just one.

Quinn, who hasn't had alot to do the last 2 seasons, still was more realistic then just about every other character. That was until he stopped mid thrust this week....come on....

Deb is the other one. Her hate for Dex is spot on. Her downfall into the world she is living in feels authentic.

I applaud her role and storyline's thus far, and i feel Deb is the best part of this show.

Dexter on the other hand.....ridiculous. Everything he does is just plain stupid. It would be more believable if he knew her bank password then guessing it.

The kid, can't find a daycare, so he has to look after him while, you know, he investigates murders.....come on.

The whole ending, with the murder of Billy Walsh, that was just so out of the blue and stupid.

Season 5, which wasn't that good, but told the aftermath of Rita's death should have been the end. It's really bad right now.

But what about fucking password? And the babysitter was good, too. I like where they're going with Deb. She said she killed the wrong person, maybe she'll end up killing Dexter in the end.

I really like the premise of this season with Vogel. I just hope she doesn't turn out to be the one behind the killings.

I just hope she doesn't turn out to be the one behind the killings.

I'll take pretty safe assumptions for 1000, Alex.

Now Dex has someone he can legitimately blame for what he turned into.

I'll take pretty safe assumptions for 1000, Alex.

Now Dex has someone he can legitimately blame for what he turned into.

Yeah...think that's a safe assumption.

Yeah it's so clear that I really hope it's not the road they're going down

Im thinking shes pitting two of her creations against one another, good vs evil psychopath.

I just caught up on this season watching the first few episodes today. I like where this heading and thought this past episode had a great ending. Can't wait to see where this goes the next few weeks.

Too bad it looks like they've clearly gone down the "obvious" path - question now is will Dexter & Hannah live happily ever after?

This season has been downright dreadful. Which is disappointing after a fantastic season last year. They have yet to create and maintain a single meaningful storyline. They could have started this season at next week's episode. Kind of the opposite of what you are going for with a series finale I'd think, especially one centering around a character like Dexter.

Limping back to the barn.

At least Breaking Bad is living up to it's sky high expectations.

It's hilarious to me how horrible a parent Dexter is. He's with that kid about 5 minutes a day. He's lucky to have the most amazing and understanding nanny ever.

And Astor and Cody, whom Dexter was a father to, and who still live in-state, are just completely gone.

This season really fell off a cliff after the "drape-rod through the bed through the killer" scene. I couldn't wait for this week's to end, and although it finally got good in the last minute, the previous 200 minutes or so have felt like a huge waste.

It's hilarious to me how horrible a parent Dexter is. He's with that kid about 5 minutes a day. He's lucky to have the most amazing and understanding nanny ever.

And Astor and Cody, whom Dexter was a father to, and who still live in-state, are just completely gone.

They brought them back for a bit.

I think the writers came up with Harrison but never really had a plan for what to do with him so he is kind of just there.

I'm still watching since I've invested so much time on the series, but wow, it's a borderline comedy for me at this point. Was nice to see the chick from Friday Night Lights working the bar though.

I just don't get how they could screw this up so bad. Few shows are tailor made for an intense final season like Dexter is. It's like no one there cares at all about the show.

Watched this week's episode last night. I wonder if any series has ever had a worse final season. Shockingly horrendous.

I don't think it's quite as bad as everyone else does but I did laugh out loud at Dexter's stakeout technique:


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I can't believe he got spotted!!

Could have at least worn a less bright shirt. Maybe his slaughterin' outfit.

Quinn does not need to be Sgt if he cannot read the obvious look on Deb's face that gave away she knew who the kid was.

He was too busy thinking "Should I kiss her? Should I kiss her?"

Just started catching up on this season and can't help but wonder if the writers realized that this was the final season before the part where Hannah showed up.

Just started catching up on this season and can't help but wonder if the writers realized that this was the final season before the part where Hannah showed up.

The writers stopped doing their jobs after season 4. I doubt I'll ever rewatch the last 4 seasons again.

My prediction for the finale:

Dexter gets killed in front of Harrison, thus "beginning the cycle anew" type of thing.

Perfectly unoriginal and stereotypical, which, given that the writers seem to have mailed it in for the past few years, is probably what we'll get.

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I liked how Hannah McKay is this mastermind criminal yet she not only used Harrison's real name at the hospital but Deb's address(the place she was hiding) as well.

I liked how Hannah McKay is this mastermind criminal yet she not only used Harrison's real name at the hospital but Deb's address(the place she was hiding) as well.

It's not like she didn't know the marshal was after her too. I've waited HOURS for stitches before on a cut that reached all the way down to the fat around the bone - pretty sure Harrison could have waited for Dexter/Deb.

Or you know - at least put a frigging baseball cap on.

Yeah I have to say the writing at the end of this season has gotten incredibly sloppy. I realize that part of this year is how Dexter isn't the same as he used to be and love has changed him and crap, but the amount of stuff Dexter/Hannah are ignoring is ridiculous.

They know the marshal is after her, but they think they are going to be able to fly commercially together out of the country?

(already said but) They know Hannah is plastered on the news and she doesn't think dying her hair or buying a wig is a good plan?

They aren't worried about Harrison talking about Hannah to Jamie or anyone else?

I get that the Marshal wasn't clearly after Dexter until the last episode or two - but there's no friggin way Dexter would be so careless about his movements knowing he was under suspicion. Doakes is rolling around in his grave right now.

I liked how Hannah McKay is this mastermind criminal yet she not only used Harrison's real name at the hospital but Deb's address(the place she was hiding) as well.

Or maybe something about her being a fugitive with her picture being all over town and she makes no attempt to disguise herself. It seems like some black hair color and glasses might help a criminal mastermind in her situation.

Or maybe just how she's a terrible plot device to bring about the ending of a series that has a premise that should easily lead to a thrilling conclusion, but instead we get Argentina and the continuation of a horrible plot line from this season.

God I hope Showtime keeps the people responsible for the last few seasons of this far, far away from Homeland.

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God I hope Showtime keeps the people responsible for the last few seasons of this far, far away from Homeland.

While season 5 and 6 blew, I thought 7 was pretty well done. Which makes this current train wreck all the more disappointing.

"Hmmm. I know I enjoy killing people, but I think I'll go ahead and spare a guy who is a direct threat to me and everyone I love, even though he just killed the closest thing I've had to a mother. In fact, I'll just leave him alone for a bit unsupervised. What's the worst that could happen?"

And then the US Marshal comes in and has no idea who Saxon is despite his face being plastered all over the news. Just lets him go with no hesitation.

Hmmm. I know I always kill people, even if they have no idea who I am. But I think I'll go ahead and spare a guy who is a direct threat to me and everyone I love. In fact, I'll just leave him alone for a bit unsupervised. What's the worst that could happen?

But you don't understand, I'm in love now which means I don't want to kill anymore. And sure leaving him alive and turning him in to the police could result in him revealing me and possibly Deb as murderers, I have to go run off with the woman who murdered her last two husbands and tried to kill my sister because loving her has cured me!

EDIT: Also...

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I also love this new found BFF thing going on between Hannah and Deb.

I also love this new found BFF thing going on between Hannah and Deb.

Deb forgives people who try to kill her almost as fast as Dexter does.

Bleh. So many contrivances to get to the ending they wanted. It got so bad at the end, the only way they could've redeemed themselves would've been to do something ridiculous like have Doakes show up at Dexter's new place at the very end. SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER.

Wow that was terrible.

Elway and the U.S. Marshall seemed like characters that belonged in an episode of Burn Notice.

Wow that was terrible.

Pretty much sums it up.

I figured it'd be so bad I didn't watch yet. Was it basically what was leaked online last week? With Quinn and all that?

I can't think of a worse ending than Dexter driving his boat into an eye of a storm to fake his death and live out his life as a lumberjack, but that's what they went with.

I can't think of a worse ending than Dexter driving his boat into an eye of a storm to fake his death and live out his life as a lumberjack, but that's what they went with.

It was more than him simply faking his death to live as a lumberjack.



I think the show posed two key questions (and attempted to answer them very badly in the last few seasons or just gave up answering them until recently), was (1) whether Dexter was born a serial killer by seeing his mother die or whether Harry made him that way and (2) whether he could have a "normal" life and still be a serial killer. Dexter was working on those issues until this season when they brought in Vogel (again, in a bad way), which answered the questions. And him becoming "normal," made him feel guilty for everything he caused or was indirectly responsible for--the deaths of Harry and Deb, Rita, etc. He didn't want to cause further pain to those he loved.

He's living his life as a lumberjack as his own personal hell, since he no longer has the urge to kill and he can't be with the ones he loves. It's purgatory.

Now, I like this concept, but the execution was bad.

It's just weird how Showtime promoted a completely different theme for the final season, which was the theme that most people expected/wanted - everyone around Dexter growing suspicious of him.

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We got absolutely none of that in the final season. They could have still gone with roughly the same ending, with Dexter disappearing into hiding, it's just interesting that they decided to completely ignore what was the overarching tension of the whole series run - will this guy get found out?

It's just weird how Showtime promoted a completely different theme for the final season, which was the theme that most people expected/wanted - everyone around Dexter growing suspicious of him.

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We got absolutely none of that in the final season. They could have still gone with roughly the same ending, with Dexter disappearing into hiding, it's just interesting that they decided to completely ignore what was the overarching tension of the whole series run - will this guy get found out?

The writers must have been told "this is what we're looking for in the ending" and they strained to get to that point and botched it.

There were also rumors they decided to go the Hannah route rather than Lumen because Julia Styles wanted too much money, so they had to go back and rework things.

Enough with the spoilers!!! The shows over.

I hated the ending.

I understand Dexter's in personal hell, but come on, let's walk straight into a hurricane, fake my death and live on as a lumberjack....

I guess that makes sense as it's typical Dexter.

Dexter season 1-4 Awesome stuff
Dexter season 5-8...um, did not exist!!

The writers must have been told "this is what we're looking for in the ending" and they strained to get to that point and botched it.


The writers said they envisioned this ending for a while. Also, Lumen, Hannah, whoever the girl was would have made no difference.

It was more than him simply faking his death to live as a lumberjack.



He's living his life as a lumberjack as his own personal hell, since he no longer has the urge to kill and he can't be with the ones he loves. It's purgatory.


But if he no longer has the urge to kill, then why can't he be with his loved ones? It's his urge to kill that causes all the problems.

I think they were trying to avoid a happy ending where Dexter lived with Hannah and Harrison in Argentina, but I think that could've worked very well as long as once he got there, he was exposed back home as the real Bay Harbor Butcher. So he has his happy life in Argentina, but people finally know what he is and he can never go back home.

That was insulting. So glad this show is dead.

At least we got the pointless Masuka and Daughter Boobs side plot that never went anywhere included in the final few episodes.

But if he no longer has the urge to kill, then why can't he be with his loved ones? It's his urge to kill that causes all the problems.

I think they were trying to avoid a happy ending where Dexter lived with Hannah and Harrison in Argentina, but I think that could've worked very well as long as once he got there, he was exposed back home as the real Bay Harbor Butcher. So he has his happy life in Argentina, but people finally know what he is and he can never go back home.

He didn't just lose the urge to kill, he gained the other emotions associated with being "normal." He felt guilty for all the lives he ruined and so he felt he shouldn't be happy anymore. Death would be too easy, so he created his own purgatory where he's guilt ridden for the rest of his life.

The writers just couldn't write it well.

My personal guess for the spinoff. Hannah and Harrison on the run in south america, constantly pursued by Elway and occasionally two mysterious figures who he refers to as his "clients". Shell teach him wonderful lessons like "Never wear a disguise" and "Always use your real name" and yet somehow theyll keep being followed into multiple countries. The amazing season finale will reveal that the two figures are....Astor and Cody wondering why this stranger randomly has their baby brother instead of them.

"Higher ups at the network are telling us one of the female characters needs to be topless this season."
"The actors for Deb, Jamie and Hannah all refuse to do nudity and that other female detective is off the show now that she got the promotion instead of Quinn. What are we going to do?"
"Ah, I got it! Masuka has a long list daughter show up and he finds her working at a topless bar."
"Brilliant!"

My personal guess for the spinoff. Hannah and Harrison on the run in south america, constantly pursued by Elway and occasionally two mysterious figures who he refers to as his "clients". Shell teach him wonderful lessons like "Never wear a disguise" and "Always use your real name" and yet somehow theyll keep being followed into multiple countries. The amazing season finale will reveal that the two figures are....Astor and Cody wondering why this stranger randomly has their baby brother instead of them.

I'd rather see "Dexter, The Lumberjack Years," in which Dexter murders evil Lumberjacks who exceed their cutting permits by taking down too many trees, or who take too many pancakes at breakfast. Instead of disposing his victims at sea, he can chop them up with a chainsaw and bury them in the forest.

Holy shit was that bad. The idea of him leaving everyone he loves and living out his life in a personal purgatory isn't bad. But you couldn't have executed in a poorer way.

The writing on the show couldn't have been worse the last few seasons. Plot holes galore, random storylines that went nowhere, and huge shifts from episode to episode in character development.

At least we got the pointless Masuka and Daughter Boobs side plot that never went anywhere included in the final few episodes.

That's my favorite side note from the season. The storyline was completely pointless. Just a chance to see the girl from Friday Night Light's tits. In fact, she wasn't the only character making meaningless appearances this season. Did they just have these people under contract and figure they needed to create something for them to do? Besides Masuka, Matthews scenes never made sense all season. He was super protective of that family but we never find out why. And what happened to the new girl who was named Lieutenant? What was the whole point of that whole thing with Quinn if he was just going to be temporarily mad and act like nothing changes by the next episode?

I seriously feel dumber for having watched this season. I can think of shows with worse themes, but not worse writing.

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Pretty disappointed with these last few episodes.

I thought this was a really good piece on where Dexter went wrong (written in advance of the finale). Beware, there are major final season Breaking Bad spoilers (nothing beyond where we currently are) if you're not watching both of these shows.

Dexter&rsquo;s Terrible Final Season and How Breaking Bad Ruined the Series - Hollywood Prospectus Blog - Grantland (http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/87631/dexters-terrible-final-season-and-how-breaking-bad-ruined-the-series)

Just saw the finale tonight. What an awful last season. They clearly didn't have enough time to come up with a good plan.

I loved the interview I read with the original showrunner (from seasons 1-4) about what he had planned/thought of as the ending to his version of the show - Dexter in the chair and the whole series ends up being a flashback from the instant after the button is pressed before the lethal injection hits.

Might be cliche a bit, but would have been fitting IMO.

Just caught up with the ending. Been on board with this show almost since the start. Seasons 1-4 are my favorite of any TV series.

I think the show obviously lost its way the last few seasons but I kept on watching.

The finally made me sad. I had hoped fora happy ending with the three of them in Argentina. I don't like the way he abandoned Harrison, someone who has discovered those new emotions could never abandon their son. Maybe thats just the father in me speaking.

Just caught up with the ending. Been on board with this show almost since the start. Seasons 1-4 are my favorite of any TV series.

I think the show obviously lost its way the last few seasons but I kept on watching.

The finally made me sad. I had hoped fora happy ending with the three of them in Argentina. I don't like the way he abandoned Harrison, someone who has discovered those new emotions could never abandon their son. Maybe thats just the father in me speaking.

But he did discover those emotions, which is why he left him. He was afraid he would destroy him like he destroyed so many others and couldn't allow himself to be happy, which he would be if he left with them,

I was sad too (even with the crappy buildup)

I loved the interview I read with the original showrunner (from seasons 1-4) about what he had planned/thought of as the ending to his version of the show - Dexter in the chair and the whole series ends up being a flashback from the instant after the button is pressed before the lethal injection hits.

Might be cliche a bit, but would have been fitting IMO.

I love the story it came from, but this would've been too cliche and IMO, awful.

He said in another interview the ending was planned the whole time, and that his version was an alternative one.

But he did discover those emotions, which is why he left him. He was afraid he would destroy him like he destroyed so many others and couldn't allow himself to be happy, which he would be if he left with them,

I was sad too (even with the crappy buildup)

Dexter's urge to kill was gone. He said that. Dexter's a smart guy(despite being a moron the last 4 years.) Common sense would suggest that without his urge to kill, his family would not be destroyed starting over in Argentina.

This whole concept to me is a fail. It contradicts this supposed growth from the character.

This whole concept to me is a fail. It contradicts this supposed growth from the character.

I thought the piece of Grantland from before the finale hit the nail on the head in regards to this.

Dexter’s Terrible Final Season and How Breaking Bad Ruined the Series (http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/87631/dexters-terrible-final-season-and-how-breaking-bad-ruined-the-series)

By contrast, the Writers' Room installment on Dexter indicates just how far gone the show’s writers are. They talk of the arc of the show less in terms of Dexter having to come to terms with what he’s done — or others having to pursue him because of those acts — and more in terms of the character becoming a “real boy.” They describe him in terms reserved for comic book superheroes. Sure, he’s killing people, but he’s only killing bad people, right? That’s not so awful. Maybe Dexter’s just misunderstood.

The problem with this idea is that Dexter itself has contradicted it in the final season. If Dexter can stop killing, if he was just a misdiagnosed sociopath (or whatever) who just needed the love of a good woman all along, then what about all of those people he killed on his table over eight seasons, tossed into the depths in Hefty bags? Couldn’t even one of those people have managed to turn their lives around? It’s as if the show forgot that a vital part of Harry’s Code has always been “Don’t get caught,” the tacit acknowledgement that what Dexter was doing was illegal and immoral, an attempt to do a patch on a malfunctioning bit of human software. In its second season — when it was revealed that Harry killed himself after seeing what he’d made his son — the show was clear-eyed enough to at least approach this idea. In its final season, that was shunted off to the side in favor of tearful good-byes and “I’m gonna miss you, pal” speeches that seem airlifted in from the series finale of M*A*S*H.

Dexter could have been a great show coming out of that second season. Think of how exciting it would be to have two antihero dramas going out at the top of their games right now, then think back to those early episodes of this season of Dexter to realize how close that notion actually came. There is always room for more than one antihero on TV. (Just ask Tony Soprano, who had to deal with a whole fleet of them while he was around.) But seeing the final season of Breaking Bad juxtaposed against the final season of Dexter simply reveals how little teeth the latter show had all along.

Like or hate Breaking Bad (or Walter White), it’s impossible to come away from that show and not think its creative team has complete and total control over what it wants to weigh about its main character. Yet even if you still like Dexter, even if you still cling to hope its finale might right the ship at the last possible moment, it’s difficult to watch this season and not conclude that the character became something else entirely along the course of its run in an attempt to soften him or make him more palatable. Walter White exposes the darkness inside all of us. Dexter Morgan had a chance to do that, but it was pushed aside in favor of more voice-over quips to the audience and reassurances that the guy you’re watching isn’t all that bad, so maybe you aren’t, either. It refuses to challenge either its characters or its audience, and that makes it more of a disappointment than anyone might have imagined back in 2007, when it had the world at its feet.

Dexter's urge to kill was gone. He said that. Dexter's a smart guy(despite being a moron the last 4 years.) Common sense would suggest that without his urge to kill, his family would not be destroyed starting over in Argentina.

This whole concept to me is a fail. It contradicts this supposed growth from the character.

This is how I feel about it.

The more I think about it the more bummed I get. I really don't like the way he abandoned Harrison. I get that he is in good hands, etc...but he still will never get over losing his father. It really digs up some strong emotions in me about my own son.

If you read the interviews with the writers, you can tell they really had no clue what to do. Their explanations for certain things happening/not happening were laughable. Here's one that I thought was pretty great:

Since Hannah’s a wanted fugitive, couldn’t she have at least put on a ball cap when walking around Miami?

BUCK: We played with the idea of dyeing her hair. In the research we did on fugitives we learned there are countless fugitives out there just walking around that nobody is really looking for. There aren’t funds to hunt down every one of them — particularly Hannah, as she hasn’t been convicted of a crime. She’s not high priority. We put her in sunglasses. Otherwise we didn’t want to call more attention to it.

Except for, you know, she knew with 100% certainty that there was a US Marshall after her who happened to be 10 feet away from her in Deb's house. Plus the Sean Patrick Flannery character.

Have to ask: How did Dex get from his boat to the shore in the middle of a hurricane?

BUCK: Hopefully it’s not a question that will be examined too closely. The show has always been a half step away from reality; it’s a hyper-reality. We established there is an emergency life raft with an outboard motor on the boat. He could have gotten in the raft and made it safely to shore.

The bold sentence is a pretty perfect way to describe this show of the last season.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/dexter-michael-hall-return-show-spinoff-article-1.1582106

Dexter: The Lumberjack Years?

I wont be watching.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/dexter-michael-hall-return-show-spinoff-article-1.1582106

Dexter: The Lumberjack Years?

Dexter: The blatant cash-grab years

They should spin off a buddy cop show called "Miami Metro" with Bautista and Quinn, the 2 worst fucking detectives in the history of the world. Maybe Masuka's daughter can show off her titties again.

They should spin off a buddy cop show called "Miami Metro" with Bautista and Quinn, the 2 worst fucking detectives in the history of the world. Maybe Masuka's daughter can show off her titties again.

True Detective Season 2 :devil:

Why can't they just let this show die?

Seems like there's another buzz building about a possible spin-off show.

I guess New Blood wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. Better actors in the Harrison and Angela roles would have gone a long way.

I want "Ghost Dokes"

I'm sure they can shoot a 50 minute pilot for a spinoff with Bautista sitting at his desk and trying to solve who stole the Cookies on Sesame Street.