NFL Week 13 Thread

[DaddyTorgo]

Not a Packers fan, but my brother has $500 in a fantasy league riding on Aaron Rodgers, so I'm pulling for Rogers these days.

[sabotai]

Not a Packers fan, but my brother has $500 in a fantasy league riding on Aaron Rodgers, so I'm pulling for Rogers these days.

As if you'd be cheering for the Giants in this game otherwise? :)

[Crapshoot]

Wow, The Rams are awful. Kyle Williams just run past a CB who couldn't tackle him for a TD.

[kingfc22]

Wow, The Rams are awful. Kyle Williams just run past a CB who couldn't tackle him for a TD.

I'm really liking Williams as a #3 receiver.

He's shown really good hands and obviously he has breakaway speed.

[MizzouRah]

On the bright side, thank you for Aldon Smith (and Justin Smith!) - pass rush out of Mizzou:D

That play where Aldon Smith completely ran over the OL was great.

[MizzouRah]

Wow, The Rams are the worst team in the NFL, I mean they really suck ass. Kyle Williams just run past a CB who couldn't tackle him for a TD.

I agree. :D

[Crapshoot]

Aldon Smith just did it again. He's making the #7 pick on him (called an overdraft at the time) look good.

[MizzouRah]

Such smart announcers, "The Rams offense don't have any answers for this 49er defense today".

Oh... no shit? The Rams offense hasn't had an answer all season long genius!

[MizzouRah]

Aldon Smith just did it again. He's making the #7 pick on him (called an overdraft at the time) look good.

Did you see him run off the field and sit down?

He's a great guy, I thought that was an excellent pick at #7.. although I'm a bit bias. ;)

[Lathum]

for fucks sake

[kingfc22]

Bad clock management by Dallas. They have two timeouts left and instead elect to take about 10-15 seconds just to spike the ball.

[kingfc22]

They could have easily stopped it with around 20 seconds ran another play to get a bit closer and then setup a chance for a shorter FG.

[kingfc22]

And they miss it. :D

Good for them ;)

[Crapshoot]

Did you see him run off the field and sit down?

He's a great guy, I thought that was an excellent pick at #7.. although I'm a bit bias. ;)

That was awesome - they kept replaying it. :D

[Lathum]

Wow, Giants really need to pull this out after the gift the Cards just gave them

[kingfc22]

Beautiful! Cowgirls go down in flames. LOL!

[tucker rocky]

Quarless injury looked pretty ugly.

[Fonzie]

Quarless suffered a gruesome injury on a play that the refs should have blown dead. Nice job, officials.

[tucker rocky]

Anyone feel a Eli turnover coming up?

[EagleFan]

Quarless injury looked pretty ugly.

Worst part is the play should have already been whistled dead.

[Fonzie]

Indeed. And those 16 yards are looking pretty important right about now.

[sabotai]

Wow, Giants really need to pull this out after the gift the Cards just gave them

Would be nice, but Dallas has a better division record and conference record. They need to beat Dallas both times regardless of what happens in any other game.

EDIT: (To clarify) A win here just means they can lose their other two games and still win the division if they beat Dallas both times (they would be 2 up on Dallas and 2 other games played). A lose means they'll need to beat Dallas both times (1 up on Dallas) and will not have the comfort of being able to drop 1 or both of their other games. At the end of the day, they need to beat Dallas both times.

[Bigsmooth]

Way too much time for Rodgers.

[larrymcg421]

Man, how did Rodgers complete that pass? Ridiculous.

[kingfc22]

Rodgers doing his best Tebow Time impression. *ducks*

[sabotai]

Oh I see! The Giants defense is going to let them score so that the offense has enough time to score another TD! Good plan!

[Grover]

Way too much time for Rodgers.

Clearly.

[Julio Riddols]

If I had to pick a QB to play for me in the 4th quarter of a game, I am convinced it would be Eli Manning.

[TroyF]

wow, that was impressive as all get out.

[tucker rocky]

What an entertaining game this is. GB/NYG

[Lathum]

So Sick

[tucker rocky]

If I had to pick a QB to play for me in the 4th quarter of a game, I am convinced it would be Eli Manning.

My pick is Aaron Rodgers. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

Blargh.

I was hoping the NYG would win. I neglected to mention that my brother already has first place wrapped up, so if there was a time for the Pack to lose this would be it.

[Julio Riddols]

Rodgers would be the QB for everything else though.

[larrymcg421]

Is it too soon to put Rodgers in the Greatest Ever discussion? Barring a major collapse, this is going to be the best season for a QB ever.

[larrymcg421]

If I had to pick a QB to play for me in the 4th quarter of a game, I am convinced it would be Eli Manning.

If it was 1 second left I would take Tim Tebow. Even if you're down by 20 points, Tebow will find a way to score 21 in 1 second. You just know it.

[Julio Riddols]

He is easily the most consistent and I have never seen anyone throw like he does on the run. If he does this for a couple more seasons, yeah. Best ever. He's already hall of fame quality in my opinion.

[sabotai]

Is it too soon to put Rodgers in the Greatest Ever discussion? Barring a major collapse, this is going to be the best season for a QB ever.

Depends on if quantity (length of career) is a requirement. If not, not too soon. If yes, way too soon.

[larrymcg421]

Depends on if quantity (length of career) is a requirement. If not, not too soon. If yes, way too soon.

Well, I didn't necessarily mean if he retired today. I was more talking about is it too soon to suggest that he might be the greatest ever.

[Julio Riddols]

If it was 1 second left I would take Tim Tebow. Even if you're down by 20 points, Tebow will find a way to score 21 in 1 second. You just know it.

Yeah. He is the guy for miracles.

[Matthean]

Rodgers can't be considered the greatest until he faces and beats Tebow.

[sabotai]

Rodgers can't be considered the greatest until he faces and beats Tebow.

+ A BILLION!!!

[larrymcg421]

Well I heard they were just cancelling the postseason and automatically appointing the Packers and Broncos as the Super Bowl teams.

[tucker rocky]

Well I heard they were just cancelling the postseason and automatically appointing the Packers and Broncos as the Super Bowl teams.

With a run in by Brett Favre to give the title to Tebow.
McMahon could make this work.

[Julio Riddols]

For fantasy league purposes, I need Calvin Johnson to have a quiet night.

[rowech]

For fantasy league purposes, I need Calvin Johnson to have a quiet night.

So do I. Sorry about that.

[Lathum]

It must really suck to be a DB in todays NFL.

[Lathum]

Madonna performing at the halftime show of the Superbowl. Meh.

[Matthean]

There is much apathy about the game, or my Facebook feed is blowing up about the refs for no reason.

[cuervo72]

Yeah, nice arm Stafford.

[Lathum]

Man, the Lions are one stupid football team.

[Grover]

Madonna performing at the halftime show of the Superbowl. Meh.

Meh!? The NFL is completely in touch with their fans.

[RainMaker]

Sort of a weird halftime show, although there aren't many mainstream acts I would go for.

[Pumpy Tudors]

At some point, Nate Burleson needs to just ask, "What am I doing wrong?" Then he needs to stop doing that.

[MikeVic]

Don't know why, but I thought someone like Maroon 5 would be the halftime show. You can bring in XTina there too.

[Grover]

The Lions will be riding the short bus back to Detroit.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Pettigrew is lucky he didn't get thrown out of the game just now. I mean, I think they were right to be lenient with him, but it could have reasonably been an ejection.

[Matthean]

So down two scores and in Saints territory with 6+ minutes to go and the Lions punt it away. Reverse psychology?

[RainMaker]

He'll be suspended.

And you truly can't touch a quarterback in this league. Not sure what the defender was supposed to do.

[Pumpy Tudors]

He'll be suspended.

And you truly can't touch a quarterback in this league. Not sure what the defender was supposed to do.
The defender didn't dive until Stafford was already on his way down. Even though he had no real chance of damaging Stafford, defenders know not to do that. That was one of the easier calls for the officials to make.

Edit to add: And I'll bet $10 of my own money and $100 of Roger Goodell's money that Brandon Pettigrew won't get suspended.

[Lathum]

Pettigrew is lucky he didn't get thrown out of the game just now. I mean, I think they were right to be lenient with him, but it could have reasonably been an ejection.

He'll be getting a hefty fine. Between this game and the Thanksgiving game it has been interesting to watch them unravel.

[RainMaker]

The defender didn't dive until Stafford was already on his way down. Even though he had no real chance of damaging Stafford, defenders know not to do that. That was one of the easier calls for the officials to make.

Edit to add: And I'll bet $10 of my own money and $100 of Roger Goodell's money that Brandon Pettigrew won't get suspended.
I rewinded it and Stafford was sort of stumbling. The defender not only has to assume Stafford won't regain balance but that he'll be able to stop his 300 pound body on a dime. I just think it's much easier said than done.

I think he'll miss a game. Just because the NFL is anal about not touching officials. But maybe it's just a heavy fine, I'd have to see it again.

[Matthean]

While Schwartz has been the guy to help build this team up, they need a coach who knows how to be a disciplinarian.

[Pumpy Tudors]

He'll be getting a hefty fine. Between this game and the Thanksgiving game it has been interesting to watch them unravel.
Yeah, I think contact with an official is an automatic fine. I can actually believe that this was accidental on Pettigrew's part, but it was still pretty stupid, just like a number of other things the Lions have done tonight.

[Mustang]

He'll be getting a hefty fine. Between this game and the Thanksgiving game it has been interesting to watch them unravel.

Team takes on the personality of the coach unfortunately and right now, that isn't a good thing for the Lions. Schwartz just strikes me as an assbag.

[EagleFan]

You can take the Lions out of last place but you can't take last place out of the Lions?

[bhlloy]

Team takes on the personality of the coach unfortunately and right now, that isn't a good thing for the Lions. Schwartz just strikes me as an assbag.

I agree with this. Sometimes coaches can be the ones that pull a team out of the depths but just aren't the ones to help them take the next steps. Rah rah and us against the world works a whole lot better when you are an embarrassment than when you are another decent NFL team trying to make that next step and play championship football.

[Jas_lov]

Two divisions are already locked up - NFC West and NFC North. The Packers just got through their toughest remaining games and I don't see them losing. They have 3 home games and their 1 road game is at KC. If Carson gets his two receivers and McFadden back next week could be another interesting shootout but I don't think GB loses at home. Cutler and the Bears would have been their biggest challenge but Chicago has lost him and Forte so that should be a win. KC is a joke. And Rodgers won't lose to Detroit at home with a chance to go 16-0.

[Jas_lov]

While Schwartz has been the guy to help build this team up, they need a coach who knows how to be a disciplinarian.

And he needs to not punt the ball back to Drew Brees down by 14 with the ball in the Saints territory. It was 4th and 13 but they've been passing it all over the place and there's only 6:35 left in the game. And this was the possession after he tries a 55 yard FG which are no good in a game like this even if you make it.

[RainMaker]

I guess the only good news for the Bears today is it looks like Martz is gone at the end of the year. Thank God this shit experiment is finally coming to an end.

[Matthean]

I guess the only good news for the Bears today is it looks like Martz is gone at the end of the year. Thank God this shit experiment is finally coming to an end.

Considering he changed his game plan to the strengths of the team and Chicago started winning, I don't exactly get the hate. Before that? Well, yeah. His pass happy system is hell for a team ill suited for it.

[jbergey22]

And he needs to not punt the ball back to Drew Brees down by 14 with the ball in the Saints territory. It was 4th and 13 but they've been passing it all over the place and there's only 6:35 left in the game. And this was the possession after he tries a 55 yard FG which are no good in a game like this even if you make it.

Yeah that makes no sense if they were trying to win the game.

A bit off topic but I dont really understand why teams punt with 7 min left in the 4th quarter down 17-21 points. They obviously have given up on trying to win the game at that point but for what reason? Why does it matter if you lose by 17 or 31 if you atleast give yourself some hope of winning the game.

Its like in the NFL they have some sort of "gentlemans agreement" where when you get down 2+ scores if you punt we wont try to score again.

[RainMaker]

Considering he changed his game plan to the strengths of the team and Chicago started winning, I don't exactly get the hate. Before that? Well, yeah. His pass happy system is hell for a team ill suited for it.

Near the boTtom of the league offensively despite a top 10 qb and rb. He got the players he wanted too. He toned down his stuff for a few games but always goes back to his old self. This team won because of defense and special teams. He is just holding them back.

[Matthean]

Near the boTtom of the league offensively despite a top 10 qb and rb. He got the players he wanted too. He toned down his stuff for a few games but always goes back to his old self. This team won because of defense and special teams. He is just holding them back.

10th in rushing and 20th in passing yards and that's with the injuries factored in for the past two games. During the switch to a run based offense and the 5 game win streak the Bears scored 39, 24, 30, 37, and 31.

[Mustang]

And Rodgers won't lose to Detroit at home with a chance to go 16-0.

For arguments sake, if they are 15-0 with everything wrapped up, I'm not sure what the hell they will do. I just get the sense that while they want to go 16-0, they don't need to go 16-0. Seems like there are alot of variables in play.. will Detroit be out of it and pissy pulling stuff like the Saints, will Detroit have something locked up, will the weather be ok, who is dinged up. I could see them resting guys that need a little bit of a break, but not completely.

Raiders could be tough especially if Woodson, Bishop and Hawk are all still out.

[Thomkal]

After seeing the highlights from the Cards/Cowboys game, I'd like to thank Jason Garrett for icing his own kicker for no good reason at all, and allowing my beloved Cards to come back in overtime to win a game they shouldn't have. All the sweeter since it was against the hated Cowboys :)

[Passacaglia]

At some point, Nate Burleson needs to just ask, "What am I doing wrong?" Then he needs to stop doing that.

Seriously. Dude must have said something about a ref's mother before the game. He had, what, 4 penalties? And the only one that seemed legit to me was the facemask.

[Lathum]

After all these years I still don't get the love for Eli Manning...

What is there to not "get?"

I don't hear anyone saying he is elite ala the Big 3 ( Rodgers, Brees, Brady) and he is a notch below Big Ben, otherwise he belongs in that next group. He operates as good as any NFL QB in his system in the 2 minute drill, can make plays to with the game, in his career has made the Giants perennial playoff teams and he delivered a title.

I realize he is a part of a team that has a great defense and lots of skill guys, but he is still the QB and proved to be a great one. Does he throw some bad picks, yes he does, but so do a lot of other guys. Without Eli this year the Giants would probably be a 2-3 win team right now.

Bottom line is he is a great, but not elite, QB who plays very well in his teams system the majority of the time. If he stays on the same path he likely finishes his careen with over 50K yards and 350 TD's. Don't know many people who wouldn't take a 15 year career like that from their QB.

[Ksyrup]

I agree with this. Sometimes coaches can be the ones that pull a team out of the depths but just aren't the ones to help them take the next steps. Rah rah and us against the world works a whole lot better when you are an embarrassment than when you are another decent NFL team trying to make that next step and play championship football.

Yeah, like the Bucs firing Dungy and hiring Gruden.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Lions are a cautionary tale. There's a reason why you never heard the story about what happened to the lions after Daniel escaped their den, because it's too fucking depressing.

The Lions have been cursed by god. Satan is among them.

Ever since the Lions shallacked, embarassed and then openly mocked The Tebow, they have gone 1-3. Players are dropping like flies. Players are consistently acting the fool. It's like they've been possesed by some malevolent spirit or are being shunned by the good Lord.

The Lions need an exorcist or, at least, need to burn some sage up in Ford Field.

Woe be to any team or anyone that beats or mocks The Tebow.

Man, the Lions are one stupid football team.

The Lions will be riding the short bus back to Detroit.

He'll be getting a hefty fine. Between this game and the Thanksgiving game it has been interesting to watch them unravel.

Team takes on the personality of the coach unfortunately and right now, that isn't a good thing for the Lions. Schwartz just strikes me as an assbag.

You can take the Lions out of last place but you can't take last place out of the Lions?

I agree with this. Sometimes coaches can be the ones that pull a team out of the depths but just aren't the ones to help them take the next steps. Rah rah and us against the world works a whole lot better when you are an embarrassment than when you are another decent NFL team trying to make that next step and play championship football.

As Dominic Raiola said, the Lions need to "Grow the fuck up."

p.s. Fuck all y'all.

H_B, OUT!

:devil:

[SirFozzie]

Big news today. Apparently CBS, FOX and NBC will be re-signing for eight years at an 60% hike in per-year payments.

That's something like a $3 Billion increase in Media Rights...

[SFL Cat]

Dolphins crush Raiders yesterday, so in South Florida...a lot of folks are starting to ask if Tony Sporano should be allowed to keep his job if the Dolphins continue playing like they have for the remainder of the season. Personally, I think he and Ireland are gone...but stranger things have happened.

[miami_fan]

Dolphins crush Raiders yesterday, so in South Florida...a lot of folks are starting to ask if Tony Sporano should be allowed to keep his job if the Dolphins continue playing like they have for the remainder of the season. Personally, I think he and Ireland are gone...but stranger things have happened.

HELL NO!

They need to stop with this crap.

[BillJasper]

Dolphins crush Raiders yesterday, so in South Florida...a lot of folks are starting to ask if Tony Sporano should be allowed to keep his job if the Dolphins continue playing like they have for the remainder of the season. Personally, I think he and Ireland are gone...but stranger things have happened.

I'd keep Sparano another year and kick Ireland to the fucking curb.

[RomaGoth]

As a Lions fan, I am horribly embarrassed after last night's debacle. They could have, and possibly, should have won that game against the Saints. I have never seen a team make so many mental errors and just pull stupid shit. It's like each player tried to outdo the previous guy with an even stupider penalty.

I may be in the minority here, but I think Jim Schwartz is a helluva coach but he needs to reign in that team and pull their heads out of their collective asses.

This team can do good things but they have to stop beating themselves, or they will continue to be embarrassed like they last 2 games.

[RomaGoth]

Dola

Also, a nice win for the Steelers. Too bad they can't beat the Ravens this year; that is what is keeping them from wrapping up the division.

[JediKooter]

Chargers/Jaguars...As the Chargers have proven all season, they don't dare let the opposing team under perform them. You want to score 20 points? Fine. The Chargers will score 17. You want to score 45 points? Cool. The Chargers will score 35. What will Norv have up his sleeve to cement his last ever head coaching job in the NFL?

[Ksyrup]

Yet another Monday night game that I don't want to watch but can "give up" for my wife in order to make her think I'm sacrificing something. I don't know who ESPN put in charge of scheduling this year, but they should fire him/her. Clearly someone in the NFL offices doesn't like that person, or they have far less clout with the NFL than Fox/ CBS/NBC.

[RomaGoth]

Chargers/Jaguars...As the Chargers have proven all season, they don't dare let the opposing team under perform them. You want to score 20 points? Fine. The Chargers will score 17. You want to score 45 points? Cool. The Chargers will score 35. What will Norv have up his sleeve to cement his last ever head coaching job in the NFL?

Someone will hire him again, the NFL is full of retreads.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Seriously. Dude must have said something about a ref's mother before the game. He had, what, 4 penalties? And the only one that seemed legit to me was the facemask.
I actually agree with the pass interference calls against him. Does he normally push off with his arms extended? I don't know. Maybe he gets away with it most of the time, but since he was getting flagged, he needed to ask what was causing his normal technique to get flagged. I mean, it's uncommon to see two offensive pass interference penalties in one game. How about three? On the same team? On the same player? After the second one, just ask the official what he saw. As long as he's not being a dick about it, the official would probably tell him.

I'm not a big fan of a player getting called for penalties again and again and then whining about it afterwards. At some point, he's got to think that maybe he's doing something wrong (or at least the refs are seeing him do something wrong). You don't get three offensive pass interference penalties by accident.

[Doug5984]

Yet another Monday night game that I don't want to watch but can "give up" for my wife in order to make her think I'm sacrificing something. I don't know who ESPN put in charge of scheduling this year, but they should fire him/her. Clearly someone in the NFL offices doesn't like that person, or they have far less clout with the NFL than Fox/ CBS/NBC.

You thought tonight's game was bad? Just wait til next week.... I want to see the promo for it.

The Rams who have won a couple games, play the Seahawks who have won a few more games- neither team is really playing for anything- tonight on MNF.

[JediKooter]

Someone will hire him again, the NFL is full of retreads.

I'm sure someone will hire him. I would just be surprised if it was for HC position. He always seems to excel at the Offensive Coordinator job. He's got the touch of death as a head coach, so unless he is really really good friends with an owner or GM, I just don't seem him being a head coach again.

Kevin Glibride is a perfect example of what mold Turner fits into.

[Pumpy Tudors]

The NFL should move every Broncos game for the rest of the season to Monday night.

[Doug5984]

I actually agree with the pass interference calls against him. Does he normally push off with his arms extended? I don't know. Maybe he gets away with it most of the time, but since he was getting flagged, he needed to ask what was causing his normal technique to get flagged. I mean, it's uncommon to see two offensive pass interference penalties in one game. How about three? On the same team? On the same player? After the second one, just ask the official what he saw. As long as he's not being a dick about it, the official would probably tell him.

I'm not a big fan of a player getting called for penalties again and again and then whining about it afterwards. At some point, he's got to think that maybe he's doing something wrong (or at least the refs are seeing him do something wrong). You don't get three offensive pass interference penalties by accident.

I think he knew what he was doing, probably gets away with it a lot and thought he could tonight. I mean if you can get away with a push off you have the ability to score a big TD on that play (DB falls down- get a long score). Getting one of those is worth a couple PI calls, but you're right after 2 he should know he isn't getting away with it anymore.

[Ksyrup]

The NFL should move every Broncos game for the rest of the season to Monday night.

I will be shocked if the Broncos/Patriots game isn't flexed on the 18th.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I will be shocked if the Broncos/Patriots game isn't flexed on the 18th.
Yeah, that's pretty much a slam dunk, I'd think.

[Logan]

I will be shocked if the Broncos/Patriots game isn't flexed on the 18th.

How does CBS not protect that game? Their other options would be terrible.

[Pumpy Tudors]

How does CBS not protect that game? Their other options would be terrible.
For some reason, CBS has Jets-Eagles protected. lol

Edit: Oh, they had to declare their protected games back in October.

[stevew]

The NFL should move every Broncos game for the rest of the season to Monday night.

Only if Gus Johnson can be the announcer.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Only if Gus Johnson can be the announcer.
Fox had better at least get Gus Johnson to call the Bears-Broncos game on Fox later this year.

[Butter]

Gus Johnson has become a cartoonish version of himself. He screams something on every play now instead of not trying to force the drama. He's hard to listen to.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Gus Johnson has become a cartoonish version of himself. He screams something on every play now instead of not trying to force the drama. He's hard to listen to.
You fail at the internet and now you have to leave.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Gus Johnson has become a cartoonish version of himself. He screams something on every play now instead of not trying to force the drama. He's hard to listen to.

Yeah. At the beginning of the Big 10 Championship game, I was getting pretty annoyed by Gus Johnson and didn't understand why he always seemed to be YELLING EVERYTHING. But, by the end, when shit started to get real, I enjoyed it.

The good thing about Gus Johnson is that he has a mystical ability to will a game to be exciting in order for it to match his excitement. So it tends to work out for everyone.

[Butter]

Yeah, it's good in the last 5 minutes of tight games. It's not so hot on a 3rd and 26 in the 1st quarter of a 0-0 game.

[Ksyrup]

I guess I don't get many games that Gus Johnson calls. I've heard the whole internet joke thing about him, but I swear I've never realized I was listening to him call a game. If it's because he's usually doing NFL on Fox, then that might explain it. Whatever the reason, I thought he and his partner were terrible during whatever college game they called - was it UCLA/Oregon? I didn't realize who he was during the intro part, and it was like watching amateur hour, I thought. I guess I don't get it. Or maybe he's jumped the shark by now.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I guess I don't get many games that Gus Johnson calls. I've heard the whole internet joke thing about him, but I swear I've never realized I was listening to him call a game. If it's because he's usually doing NFL on Fox, then that might explain it. Whatever the reason, I thought he and his partner were terrible during whatever college game they called - was it UCLA/Oregon? I didn't realize who he was during the intro part, and it was like watching amateur hour, I thought. I guess I don't get it. Or maybe he's jumped the shark by now.
He worked for CBS until the end of last season, so if you watched CBS, you might have heard him there. It seemed like he was doing a lot of games involving the AFC South, but I'm not entirely sure. He just started working for Fox this year, and it was mostly for college football.

[Ksyrup]

Fox... mostly college football? Does not compute. I guess the regional games, on Fox Net?

Either I never paid attention and didn't get what was so awesome about him, or we just missed each other. Either way, his opening of that game this weekend was terrible. Loud, stumbled a couple of times, and was staring beyond the camera off to the side like a local car dealer reading his lines. It was weird.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Fox... mostly college football? Does not compute. I guess the regional games, on Fox Net?

Either I never paid attention and didn't get what was so awesome about him, or we just missed each other. Either way, his opening of that game this weekend was terrible. Loud, stumbled a couple of times, and was staring beyond the camera off to the side like a local car dealer reading his lines. It was weird.
Yes, Fox Sports Net. And you just missed each other.

[Grover]

Gus was also excellent during the NCAA tournament on CBS. That's where I'll miss him most.

[Ksyrup]

More Favre talk, this time with Chicago. Great. Bring him in this week - Von Miller would like to introduce himself.

[Matthean]

More Favre talk, this time with Chicago. Great. Bring him in this week - Von Miller would like to introduce himself.

Lions get a turn when Stafford gets hurt? :lol:

[Passacaglia]

I would consider going to the Bears last home game if Favre played, that'd be pretty cool. Bears last two games are on the road at Green Bay and at Minnesota, which would also be fun.

[Rizon]

..

[Logan]

"sexting dicks" is the much better one, IMO.

[EagleFan]

I see we did learn this week that while there is a debate about icing the other team's kicker we now see what happens when you ice your own kicker. :)

[Ksyrup]

I kinda understood what happened on the TO - assuming he wasn't just making things up saying that he was concerned they were going to get a delay of game penalty.

The decision to rush up to the line and clock the ball after completing a pass with 26 seconds left, leaving only 7 seconds once everyone got to the line and the spike occurred, when the team still had 2 TOs left, makes absolutely no sense, however.

[Logan]

I kinda understood what happened on the TO - assuming he wasn't just making things up saying that he was concerned they were going to get a delay of game penalty.

The decision to rush up to the line and clock the ball after completing a pass with 26 seconds left, leaving only 7 seconds once everyone got to the line and the spike occurred, when the team still had 2 TOs left, makes absolutely no sense, however.

Your second point is 100% right. On the first, Garrett didn't seem to have the body language and sense of urgency of a guy who was panicking his team would take a penalty. He looked shell shocked...but maybe that's how he always is.

[flounder]

Joe DeCamillis and Chris Boniol were both telling him to take the TO, so I took that look as "I don't know why I'm calling this timeout, but they both seem to think it's important".

[Danny]

Just checking, but Favre's rep in GB is completely ruined already right? Of course, I have to imagine it would be that much more so if he ever suited up for the Bears.

Plus you guys have Rodgers, who is better than Favre ever was anyway

[RainMaker]

Rodgers is great, but lets see how his whole career plays out. Favre also didn't get to play his prime in an era when you couldn't play any defense.

I imagine Favre will lay low for some time and then will be embraced back by the fans in Green Bay. Most of the guys I know up there still have a soft spot for him and it would be really shitty to see them turn on him forever considering what he did for that franchise. My guess is they honor him in a few years and everyone goes nuts.

[Antmeister]

Looks like me and five other people are watching this game...fracking Chargers.

[Lathum]

Looks like me and five other people are watching this game...fracking Chargers.

If I wasn't sitting in a hotel room in Scottsdale it would be you and 4 other people.

That being said has actually been an entertaining game.

[RainMaker]

10th in rushing and 20th in passing yards and that's with the injuries factored in for the past two games. During the switch to a run based offense and the 5 game win streak the Bears scored 39, 24, 30, 37, and 31.
Football Outsiders has them at 22 (21st in passing, 15th in rushing) and that doesn't include Sunday's abortion. If that's the best you can muster with a top 10 QB and RB having career years, you shouldn't have a job long.

And I don't get why he is getting credit for "switching to a run based offense". Most offensive coordinators play to the strengths of their talent. Somehow he's getting credit because Lovie and Cutler sat him down and told him to stop throwing the ball like a fucking idiot every down.

[BillJasper]

Gabbert just doesn't look like an NFL QB.

[bhlloy]

Norv Turner and Philip Rivers. The best garbage time coach and player duo in the NFL. Whenever you need to win a meaningless game, they'll be there.

[stevew]

I figure the Chargers will go 9-7 enough to keep Norv around another year or three. SD has some pretty winnable games, they could factor in the division if they get hot.

[JediKooter]

What the fuck, Chargers?!?!? :banghead:

[Rizon]

What the fuck, Chargers?!?!? :banghead:

http://www.footballbabble.com/images/chargers-cheerleaders.jpg

[JediKooter]

All better now. Thank you!

[Dodgerchick]

I figure the Chargers will go 9-7 enough to keep Norv around another year or three. SD has some pretty winnable games, they could factor in the division if they get hot.

If that happens, I'm switching teams.

God Bless.

[Julio Riddols]

So now Suh has apparently wrecked his car by driving like an idiot, then lied about the accident to cops. Dude really needs to take a step back, maybe get some counseling or something.

[JediKooter]

Was he stomping on the gas peddle?

[flounder]

Life ain't easy for a boy named Suh.

[jbergey22]

He is probably damn close to reaching rock bottom. At this point he can take the Albert Haynesworth route or Cris Carter route. Lets hope for his case its not the former.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I OFFICIALLY left this thread yesterday after suffering through countless attacks and a plethora of humiliations visited upon the Lions.

But if I hadn't, here's what I'd say:

So now Suh has apparently wrecked his car by driving like an idiot, then lied about the accident to cops. Dude really needs to take a step back, maybe get some counseling or something.


He's not a very good driver apparently. He had some wreck while he was in Nebraska and hit a bunch of parked cars. He got in another care accident earlier this year a few blocks from my house.

He is a shit driver, but wasn't drunk or anything.


He is probably damn close to reaching rock bottom. At this point he can take the Albert Haynesworth route or Cris Carter route. Lets hope for his case its not the former.

I think this is a massive over reaction. I don't think he's "damn close to reaching rock bottom." He's just a young guy who thinks waaay to highly of himself at this moment and grossly immature in many respects.

He does have to check himself before he wrecks himself (not just another set of wheels).

PEACE.

H_B, OUT!

[RomaGoth]

...He got in another care accident earlier this year a few blocks from my house.

I hear those care accidents are especially brutal on the psyche....






:D

[Passacaglia]

Yeah. "Oh, you're injured? Well, I don't care!"

[stevew]

Was he stomping on the gas peddle?

Subway never had flatbread until Suh started stomping on the Italian bread loaves.

[JediKooter]

Subway never had flatbread until Suh started stomping on the Italian bread loaves.

Nice!

[jbergey22]

I think this is a massive over reaction. I don't think he's "damn close to reaching rock bottom." He's just a young guy who thinks waaay to highly of himself at this moment and grossly immature in many respects.

This could be real bad if he hasnt come close to rock bottom. Id hate to think of what the encore could present.

[JonInMiddleGA]

This could be real bad if he hasnt come close to rock bottom. Id hate to think of what the encore could present.

I'd think it would involve felony charges.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Life ain't easy for a boy named Suh.

Nicely done.

[RomaGoth]

So now Suh has apparently wrecked his car by driving like an idiot, then lied about the accident to cops. Dude really needs to take a step back, maybe get some counseling or something.

I hope those girls that were in the car don't Suh him for this.

[JediKooter]

Suh-ner or later it is bound to happen.

[Julio Riddols]

If he breaks a few teeth in his next accident, he'll get a Suh-veneer.

[Passacaglia]

Brett Favre with the public denial that he's been contacted by teams or contemplating coming back. Guess that means he'll be starting somewhere on Suhnday.

Good one.

[Matthean]

Archie Manning says Peyton Manning-Andrew Luck duo on Indianapolis Colts not good for either - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7324506/archie-manning-says-peyton-manning-andrew-luck-duo-indianapolis-colts-not-good-either)

Archie Manning saying Peyton and Luck won't work.

And now Archie changes his tune.

Archie Manning's new take -- Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck can co-exist with Indianapolis Colts - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7327351/archie-manning-new-take-peyton-manning-andrew-luck-co-exist-indianapolis-colts)

[JediKooter]

Archie can suck one.

[RomaGoth]

Archie can suck one.

I expect better from a Chargers fan. Oh, right....the Eli thing. :p

[JediKooter]

I expect better from a Chargers fan. Oh, right....the Eli thing. :p

:D

[MacroGuru]

LOL

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