Alright Boyz, Here We Go!!! NCAA Football 2009 impressions thread

[Eaglesfan27]

Just booted up the game and got an update. Looks like the roster patch is out (360 version).

Anybody have any idea if you can start a game with the already created rosters or do you have to have rosters edited after the patch?

A user named "WallaceNails" is claiming to have a clean roster based off DTLinder's roster, however, none of the EA reps have officially commented on this question, yet. It has been asked over at OS though and we'll hopefully have an official answer later today.

[Sun Tzu]

*crosses fingers*

If I can start pre-season stuff in the NOFL today I'll be absolutely stoked.

[BigDPW]

Remind me what Patch #1 is supposed to fix other than the roster bug?

[Eaglesfan27]

It also fixes a bug where if you edit a player in a dynasty, it resets the depth chart. I believe those are the only 2 fixes for patch 1. The main issue was to fix the roster editing crashing the game.

[Sun Tzu]

Looks like we can git 'er goin EF. We have 100% confirmation on the OS boards...

[Kodos]

So we are free to edit names in online dynasties that are already going then?

[Sun Tzu]

So we are free to edit names in online dynasties that are already going then?

That is correct sir.

[Galaxy]

When is path #2 suppose to come out?

[Eaglesfan27]

The 2nd patch has been sent for testing as of August 1st and if no problems arise will be out in 2 to 3 weeks. The fix list is in one of my posts on the previous page.

[wade moore]

I worry that my 360 might be dying.

I ended up going to Gamestop to swap out NCAA because it was freezing before I could even finish a quarter.

It's been fine through a few games. Then I went to start the 360 this evening and it hung at the xbox logo - weird.

Then I was just playing EF27 and it froze before I could finish a quarter.

[Kodos]

Strange. BigDPW and I played last night, but the result isn't showing up on EA's site. We finished the game successfully. JetsIn09 and I had trouble with staying connected later that night.

[Radii]

I worry that my 360 might be dying.

I ended up going to Gamestop to swap out NCAA because it was freezing before I could even finish a quarter.


Mine froze during my first game, in the 3rd quarter(just bought this tonight). Will try again tomorrow and see if its a consistant problem. Doh!

[wade moore]

I e-mailed Microsoft and got a laundry list of things to try.

Admittedly the one thing I haven't tried is other games, but for me if it's messing up on two disks of this game it's not the game.. Guess I'll have to run through their laundry list in the next couple of days.

[RainMaker]

If it's freezing, it's the system. The fact other games work doesn't mean anything. It's just a matter of certain games pushing the systems a little harder. I had the same issues awhile back for College Hoops 2K (every other game worked) and got the 360 fixed and it works like a dream.

Just saying not to waste your time delaying the inevitable.

[kingnebwsu]

I'm freaking out because my NCAA 09 almost froze twice in my game last night. This was the first game since I installed the update. Both times it was after my WR got a first down. He also broke the career reception mark that game too...so I'm wondering if that's part of it?

[Sun Tzu]

kingneb...I had the same thing happen then I rememberd how to not get the dirty disc error. When you start up your Xbox, don't press power on your controller or on the console, eject the tray, and then close it. When the console fires up with a game in there (especially an EA game for whatever reason) the dirty disc error thing/freezes happen 10x more often.

[Raiders Army]

I e-mailed Microsoft and got a laundry list of things to try.

Admittedly the one thing I haven't tried is other games, but for me if it's messing up on two disks of this game it's not the game.. Guess I'll have to run through their laundry list in the next couple of days.

Ummmm....good luck. My 360 was doing the same thing and nothing worked. Finally it broke and I got the 3RRD.

Have you tried blowing out your 360 with compressed air? It worked for me...at least for a couple days. Anyhow, I called probably about two weeks ago, had them send me a box, it came last week and I shipped it out. My 360 came back to me yesterday fixed.

On a different note, now I have two copies of NCAA 2009. I guess I'll use the PS3 version for my offline dynasty and the 360 version for the NOFL.

[Radii]

quick question, if you're aiming a kick towards the sideline, do you need to try to aim the right stick in that direction when you push up, or are you still trying to push straight up to make the kick go where you aimed?

[Eaglesfan27]

I believe that you want to pull it back at an angle and push it up at an angle that is equivalent to where you want it to go.

[Raiders Army]

quick question, if you're aiming a kick towards the sideline, do you need to try to aim the right stick in that direction when you push up, or are you still trying to push straight up to make the kick go where you aimed?

I believe that you want to pull it back at an angle and push it up at an angle that is equivalent to where you want it to go.

I agree with EF, but I'd also clarify that if you have already angled your directional arrow to the sideline, the accuracy line will move to the left and right. You then want to push up in the direction of the accuracy line.

[Grammaticus]

I believe that you want to pull it back at an angle and push it up at an angle that is equivalent to where you want it to go.

So you are basically using the aiming arrow as a spot to aim your kick stick at. That explains why I can never kick to the sideline.

Do field goals work the same way?

[Radii]

gotcha, thanks. I was messing around to see how my wireless connection would handle online play, and had a couple 10 yard punts trying to punt the ball out of bounds, looks like I need some more practice on that :D

[Radii]

Well after bitching about football games for years because I have a horribly old 25" TV that isn't widescreen and isn't HD and all that jazz, and about how I can never see any of my wide receivers(last year all I ever did was campus legend as a RB), I have finally broken down and decided to enter the 21st century and have ordered a nice new 37" HDTV, free shipping from amazon, hopefully to arrive early next week. WOOHOO.

[Eaglesfan27]

So you are basically using the aiming arrow as a spot to aim your kick stick at. That explains why I can never kick to the sideline.

Do field goals work the same way?

Yes, I believe so. The left stick is basically to aim and give you an idea of what direction you want to pull the right stick back and push it forward. At least that is my understanding.

[Kodos]

Well after bitching about football games for years because I have a horribly old 25" TV that isn't widescreen and isn't HD and all that jazz, and about how I can never see any of my wide receivers(last year all I ever did was campus legend as a RB), I have finally broken down and decided to enter the 21st century and have ordered a nice new 37" HDTV, free shipping from amazon, hopefully to arrive early next week. WOOHOO.

I feel your pain. I'm still on a standard def TV. :( My new TV fund disappeared when an unexpected expense came up while buying our house.

[Raiders Army]

I feel your pain. I'm still on a standard def TV. :( My new TV fund disappeared when an unexpected expense came up while buying our house.

I incorporated the cost of a new TV when we got our house. We're paying hundreds of thousands of dollars...what's $3,000 compared to that?

[Radii]

Yes, I believe so. The left stick is basically to aim and give you an idea of what direction you want to pull the right stick back and push it forward. At least that is my understanding.


That sounds right. A great way to play around with this and get a feel for it is the HORSE minigame. You can spot the ball anywhere on the field to attempt field goals, go way outside the hash marks to an extreme to both get an understanding of how it works, and to practice.

So far, I am very, very bad at kicking anywhere but perfectly straight.

[Radii]

I feel your pain. I'm still on a standard def TV. :( My new TV fund disappeared when an unexpected expense came up while buying our house.

I've just dealt with it for awhile now, but it has been a constant frustration in almost all video games since the 360 came out. I'm actually hoping to go back and restart a college hoops dynasty, or at least give the game another try, in the hopes that the increased court vision will help me get into the flow of the game better, in addition to being able to get into and enjoy NCAA a lot more than i have in the past. Its been ordered, and I'm getting pretty excited about it now, I haven't had a TV upgrade since ~2001 :D

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[Karlifornia]

I'm bored...anyone want to play?

[Radii]

Mainly just making sure my video upload/embedding video is are working... the only play worth mentioning in my first game in a single player NC State dynasty.

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Went up 2-0 at that point! and then 5-0. Unfortunately I didn't score again until I supersimmed the last 3 minutes down 26-5.

[Kodos]

Hmmm. I'm unencouraged by recruiting after just a few weeks in my offline dynasty. In Week 3 with Indiana University, I decided to see what was out there in terms of speed guys. Lo and behold, I found a 6'7" receiver with A+ speed who was rated as 4 stars. With no offers. I am not in his top 10, but I offer him a scholly and find a pitch he likes before hanging up. Next week, I am his number 2 team, just behind Ohio State I believe. Still no other offers. Clearly, anyone with that much speed should be a 5 star guy. Especially with that much height. He should have every team in the country camped out in his front yard.

This doesn't bode well for dynasties, online or offline, if the cpu can't figure out that this guy is a superstar in the making. Computer teams aren't evaluating talent very well.

[Galaxy]

Hmmm. I'm unencouraged by recruiting after just a few weeks in my offline dynasty. In Week 3 with Indiana University, I decided to see what was out there in terms of speed guys. Lo and behold, I found a 6'7" receiver with A+ speed who was rated as 4 stars. With no offers. I am not in his top 10, but I offer him a scholly and find a pitch he likes before hanging up. Next week, I am his number 2 team, just behind Ohio State I believe. Still no other offers. Clearly, anyone with that much speed should be a 5 star guy. Especially with that much height. He should have every team in the country camped out in his front yard.

This doesn't bode well for dynasties, online or offline, if the cpu can't figure out that this guy is a superstar in the making. Computer teams aren't evaluating talent very well.

What were his other ratings (catching, jumping, awareness, ect.)?

[Noop]

Hmmm. I'm unencouraged by recruiting after just a few weeks in my offline dynasty. In Week 3 with Indiana University, I decided to see what was out there in terms of speed guys. Lo and behold, I found a 6'7" receiver with A+ speed who was rated as 4 stars. With no offers. I am not in his top 10, but I offer him a scholly and find a pitch he likes before hanging up. Next week, I am his number 2 team, just behind Ohio State I believe. Still no other offers. Clearly, anyone with that much speed should be a 5 star guy. Especially with that much height. He should have every team in the country camped out in his front yard.

This doesn't bode well for dynasties, online or offline, if the cpu can't figure out that this guy is a superstar in the making. Computer teams aren't evaluating talent very well.

He's not that good.

[Galaxy]

The patch should be coming soon, shouldn't it?

[Eaglesfan27]

The patch should be coming soon, shouldn't it?

The 2nd patch on the 360 should be out in 1 to 2 weeks if no problems arise.

[Galaxy]

Hmmm. I'm unencouraged by recruiting after just a few weeks in my offline dynasty. In Week 3 with Indiana University, I decided to see what was out there in terms of speed guys. Lo and behold, I found a 6'7" receiver with A+ speed who was rated as 4 stars. With no offers. I am not in his top 10, but I offer him a scholly and find a pitch he likes before hanging up. Next week, I am his number 2 team, just behind Ohio State I believe. Still no other offers. Clearly, anyone with that much speed should be a 5 star guy. Especially with that much height. He should have every team in the country camped out in his front yard.

This doesn't bode well for dynasties, online or offline, if the cpu can't figure out that this guy is a superstar in the making. Computer teams aren't evaluating talent very well.

Maybe the fact that Indiana made him an offer made other schools weary of a "sure-thing". ;)

As far as the TV, I'm still standard. So if your playing me in an online dynasty and I make a throw that makes you go "what the hell" or I don't see a defender in position when he shows up and picks off the pass, that's why. :)

I'm kind of a frugal.

[Kodos]

Laugh it up before we send you down in flames once again, pal.

[Radii]

So I finished my first season in a single player dynasty with NC State, and I landed a 5* tackle and 4* QB after the season was over in recruiting.

At the end of the year when its time for position switches, the QB shows a 75 overall rating, and the tackle(a RT), an 80.

After I flip to the next preseason, if I look in the redshirt list, the QB is rated 75, and the tackle 80.

Still in the same preseason, when I look at my depth charts, the QB is rated 81, and the tackle 88.

So... any clue what causes that and which numbers are right? I didn't get to finish setting up my recruiting board last night so I haven't advanced to week 1 yet to see what happens then.

[BigDPW]

So I finished my first season in a single player dynasty with NC State, and I landed a 5* tackle and 4* QB after the season was over in recruiting.

At the end of the year when its time for position switches, the QB shows a 75 overall rating, and the tackle(a RT), an 80.

After I flip to the next preseason, if I look in the redshirt list, the QB is rated 75, and the tackle 80.

Still in the same preseason, when I look at my depth charts, the QB is rated 81, and the tackle 88.

So... any clue what causes that and which numbers are right? I didn't get to finish setting up my recruiting board last night so I haven't advanced to week 1 yet to see what happens then.


That is a little wierd... I have never seen that before... There was no "off-season" progression step between these two looks at ratings right?

[fantom1979]

The spring practice games?

[Radii]

That is a little wierd... I have never seen that before... There was no "off-season" progression step between these two looks at ratings right?

right, this was after the training during the offseason... after you change from end of season/offseason tasks to preseason tasks for the next year.

I'm in week 2 now, I forgot to check what the ratings looked like in week one, I'll check again next time I play.

[JetsIn06]

I need some advice. In my SP dynasty that I'm writing about in the dynasty section, after year two of playing as Rutgers, I got offered a position in the ACC. What do you all think I should do?

edit: just to clarify, i accepted an extension with rutgers, and the acc offered to bring rutgers into the conference.

[Galaxy]

I need some advice. In my SP dynasty that I'm writing about in the dynasty section, after year two of playing as Rutgers, I got offered a position in the ACC. What do you all think I should do?

edit: just to clarify, i accepted an extension with rutgers, and the acc offered to bring rutgers into the conference.

The ACC just seems to like to feed on the Big East.

[Logan]

Fuck the ACC.

[DeToxRox]

I need some advice. In my SP dynasty that I'm writing about in the dynasty section, after year two of playing as Rutgers, I got offered a position in the ACC. What do you all think I should do?

edit: just to clarify, i accepted an extension with rutgers, and the acc offered to bring rutgers into the conference.

I'd go. It'll be a big step up from being at a mid major though.

[JetsIn06]

I went. My schedule is scary as hell now.

[Galaxy]

I went. My schedule is scary as hell now.

Who did you replace?

[JetsIn06]

Who did you replace?

Duke.

[Raiders Army]

I played Oklahoma State vs. WVU online last night and got beaten down. Cheesers really play WVU. I then played Oklahoma State vs. Kansas State and was stomping this guy when he quit after the first quarter. He also went for it on 4th down every single time.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I played Oklahoma State vs. WVU online last night and got beaten down. Cheesers really play WVU. I then played Oklahoma State vs. Kansas State and was stomping this guy when he quit after the first quarter. He also went for it on 4th down every single time.

I didn't go online at all with NCAA 09. How does the game handle quitters in regard to your online record? Is there any reprocussions against people who quit a lot?

[johnnyshaka]

FWIW, as one of the few LG holdouts, I bought the PS2 version over the weekend and am really enjoying it. The gameplay has been tightened up, and as soon as I get a good feel for slider settings over a couple of seasons running my dynasty at a lower-level school, I'll be ready to move up to a real school and take on a challenging AI. I've noticed improved angles, smoother gameplay/player movements, players getting run down on long returns, a more difficult option offense (I used to wear out the opposition with 3 or 4 option plays, which I can still do, but it's more realistic), and oh yeah...SUPER SIM IS SO GREAT. I was up 27-0 in my first game at halftime, and simmed through the rest of the game, stopping occasionally. What would have taken me an hour to sleep-walk through took me 30 minutes, and I won 34-3.

I guess my biggest thing is the "new" (for me) recruiting model, which I'll have to get used to. But otherwise, I'm glad I upgraded from 07.

Just bought the PS2 version and I'm just wondering what you are using for sliders?? I've monkeyed with a few things but still haven't found settings I like.

[Radii]

Oh man. My 37" HDTV arrived today, I CAN SEE MY RECEIVERS. This is way way better than Christmas :D

[Grammaticus]

Oh man. My 37" HDTV arrived today, I CAN SEE MY RECEIVERS. This is way way better than Christmas :D

Darn, just before you and I play in our dynasty game. Oh wells :)

[MizzouRah]

Wow.. what a game my first game of the season was against Illinois.

Pouring down rain, missed 2 FG's in the first half and I'm down 14-13 at halftime.

I lose my #2 WR in the 3rd quarter, make 1 of 2 FG's and I'm up 16-14 in the 4th quarter. Illinois goes up 22-16 late in the 4th on a 56 yd TD pass and a 2pt conversion.

Ensuing KO and Jeremy Macklin takes one to the house 82 yards and we take the lead 23-22, but there is just over 2mins left.

3rd and 8 and Juice Williams throws an out pass that's tipped and we intercept to seal the W.

Awesome game that I didn't think we'd win.

[Raiders Army]

I have yet to play an online dynasty game without rain. Hopefully this next week...

[Radii]

I landed a 5* HB at NC State, #29 overall recruit in the nation. I didn't make any promises to him. He comes in rated well(high 70s) but I have a stud HB as a senior this year. I also have a backup rated about as well as the 5* guy coming in. If I redshirt the 5* guy, how likely is he to transfer? I'd love the extra year of development but obviously I don't want to take too big a risk in losing him.

[Phototropic]

I landed a 5* HB at NC State, #29 overall recruit in the nation. I didn't make any promises to him. He comes in rated well(high 70s) but I have a stud HB as a senior this year. I also have a backup rated about as well as the 5* guy coming in. If I redshirt the 5* guy, how likely is he to transfer? I'd love the extra year of development but obviously I don't want to take too big a risk in losing him.
Do you happen to recall any of his interest levels? As long as he wasn't highly interested in playing time, I would think you'll be ok.

[Radii]

Do you happen to recall any of his interest levels? As long as he wasn't highly interested in playing time, I would think you'll be ok.

ohhh, I didn't think about that, and of course I don't remember. My early playing time rating certainly wasn't way up there or one i was pitching w/ the starter I have, but I don't remember for sure. Definitely something I'll pay attention to in the future though! And I'll likely take the chance and redshirt this guy and see what happens.

[Phototropic]

Patch #2 will release overnight for the XBox 360.

NCAA 09 Patch #2 Arriving Thursday Morn (360) - NCAA Football 09 at ncaa Strategies (http://www.ncaastrategies.com/utopia/showthread.php?t=60911)

[Eaglesfan27]

YES!

[Kodos]

Taken from OS:

Here are the patch features

Online
- Ability to view your Online Dynasty HQ through EA Sports World
- Improved online performance

Dynasty
- Fixed a couple recruiting exploits
- Faster simming between weeks
>>
Custom Stadium Sounds
- The "All" option will now only work when the user is the home team
>>
Gameplay
- Improved coverage on kicks
- Hook Zones depth keeps defenders in their zones
- Fixed an issue with the Strafe Catch
- Allow fumbles to occur when diving
- WR screen routes improved
>>
Bug Fixes
- AI sliders for will now work correctly
- An issue with missing stats after simming has been fixed
- Ball carrier will no longer run out of bounds when changing hands and heading towards the sidelines
- Fixed an exploit that allowed the slot receiver to burn the safeties in a prevent defense
- Fixed a bug where the the ball would hit the cross bar, drop through, and not be counted
- Fixed a bug that would prevent Hot Routes from working

[MizzouRah]

Sweet!

I'm impressed that can do all that in a console patch. Makes me confident in a Head Coach patch!

[BigDPW]

Yeah... That is a nice list... Anyone dl'ed it yet?

[BigDPW]

Okay I downloaded the patch this morning and played my first game (with default sliders)... NC State (me) vs. Clemson

My Thoughts:

Gunners on punt coverage definitely are improved. They can break off from the block much better and put more pressure on the return man much like years past.

The linebackers seem to cover curl routes much better. On my first play from scrimmage I threw a 10yd curl to my WR and the LB sat in the zone picked it and took it to the house. I don't recall the LB ever being there on that play before the patch. All I ever had to worry about before was if the CB would hit the WR to break it up.

I was able to pressure the QB adequately (considering I was NCSU) I thought for the first time ever with this game... Usually I had to bring a blitzer to disrupt things but occasionally got pressure with 4 down lineman coming only... YMMV... I will have to see what I can do to disrupt the QB as a superior team to make a firm judgement on this.

I know they didn't say that the kickoff coverage was improved but it seemed to be a little better to me... I rarely broke KO returns before this patch anyway but where I was usually starting off at the 40-50 yd line now I am starting 25-35 yd line regularly after KO returns.

On the default sliders I thought the game played great. I was able to hit dump offs, curls, deep ins, posts, flys, crosses and also had trouble completing some of those routes as well throughout the game. It felt very balanced to me.

I was able to pick a couple of Clemsons passes and stay in the game down to the final play where I had driven 50 yds to the 10 yd line with no timeouts and a chance to punch it in for a 1 point win when I hurried to the line (20 secs left) and audibled to a pass play and quickly snapped and threw only to have it picked by a roving CB at the goal line which he took to the house to put them up 2 scores as time expired...

[Tigercat]

Somewhat related, EA is opening its first permanent game testing center on the campus of LSU, as of right now it will just test NCAA and Tiger Woods games. Sounds like a step in the right direction as far as quality control.

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=8871411&nav=menu57_1

[MizzouRah]

Okay I downloaded the patch this morning and played my first game (with default sliders)... NC State (me) vs. Clemson

My Thoughts:

Gunners on punt coverage definitely are improved. They can break off from the block much better and put more pressure on the return man much like years past.

The linebackers seem to cover curl routes much better. On my first play from scrimmage I threw a 10yd curl to my WR and the LB sat in the zone picked it and took it to the house. I don't recall the LB ever being there on that play before the patch. All I ever had to worry about before was if the CB would hit the WR to break it up.

I was able to pressure the QB adequately (considering I was NCSU) I thought for the first time ever with this game... Usually I had to bring a blitzer to disrupt things but occasionally got pressure with 4 down lineman coming only... YMMV... I will have to see what I can do to disrupt the QB as a superior team to make a firm judgement on this.

I know they didn't say that the kickoff coverage was improved but it seemed to be a little better to me... I rarely broke KO returns before this patch anyway but where I was usually starting off at the 40-50 yd line now I am starting 25-35 yd line regularly after KO returns.

On the default sliders I thought the game played great. I was able to hit dump offs, curls, deep ins, posts, flys, crosses and also had trouble completing some of those routes as well throughout the game. It felt very balanced to me.

I was able to pick a couple of Clemsons passes and stay in the game down to the final play where I had driven 50 yds to the 10 yd line with no timeouts and a chance to punch it in for a 1 point win when I hurried to the line (20 secs left) and audibled to a pass play and quickly snapped and threw only to have it picked by a roving CB at the goal line which he took to the house to put them up 2 scores as time expired...

Great news!!!

I loved this game before the patch and now I can't wait to rattle off a game or two tonight!

[Ajaxab]

Somewhat related, EA is opening its first permanent game testing center on the campus of LSU, as of right now it will just test NCAA and Tiger Woods games. Sounds like a step in the right direction as far as quality control.

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=8871411&nav=menu57_1

Although I'm not sure if the people interviewed in the article, politicians included, really have much of a clue about what game testing is all about and how little those poor saps get paid. For Louisiana's sake, I would hope that this would be the beginning of something bigger and better, but I'm not overly optimistic.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm really happy to hear this impressions post from a guy on OS, AuburnAlumni, who has just been slamming the game, particularly the lack of a pass rush. I can't wait to get home tonight to try out the patch for myself:

This game is 1000000x times better post patch.

Jess and I are using an All American Slider set and I'm on the road at Alabama.

Some impressions.

1. Kickoffs are MUCH improved. No more house rules! http://www.operationsports.com/forums/images/smilies/graemlins/woot.gif

2. The Sliders working helps so much. Now the CPU is much more challenging on All American.

3. THERE IS A PASS RUSH!!! PRAISE THE LORD! THERE IS A PASS RUSH!!! I'm playing Alabama on the road in Tuscaloosa. My highly rated D line is actually getting in the backfield, not getting pancaked every play, and on a play just 5 minutes ago, both of my Defensive Ends blew by the Bama tackles and got to the QB.

I almost wept with joy. I'll post a vid in a bit showing the improved pass rush. It's absolutely exhilirating.

*note* I have Break block at 100 and CPU pass block at 0.

4. You can hear opposing stadium sounds and it is SWEET. I'm listening to the Million Dollar Band in Tuscaloosa with Auburn on the road.

I'm such a geek, I'll be setting each playlist before I play because it adds SO much to the game.

Good job EA. This is a DEFINITE improvement, especially on defense. Hopefully these carry over in Human vs Human games as well.

[CleBrownsfan]

Grrrr - I bought Madden CE edition and I'm not like Madden at all - rented NCAA 09 a few weeks ago and really enjoyed the play. Now with patch I may be out to sell Madden and getting NCAA ;)

[Galaxy]

I wonder if this will take away the roll-out abilities.

[MizzouRah]

Great news EF!!

This and the NHL 2k9 demo out, I'm busy all night tonight!!!

[Eaglesfan27]

I tried to embed it, but it looked like a mess to me. Here is a link to the video he posted:

http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/256786

[Balldog]

So is this game worth a purchase? I need a college football game very very bad. If the PS3 version is worth while post patch I'm going to have to check it out.

I'm mostly concerned about those horrible pursuit angles I've seen in videos, are those addressed? Or at least addressed with sliders?

[CleBrownsfan]

Ability to view your Online Dynasty HQ through EA Sports World

How do I view an online dynasty through EA Sports World? Anybody Dynasties here online that I can take a look at?

[Eaglesfan27]

The online dynasty viewing via EA Sports World isn't available yet. The developer clarified that the patch notes should have read that this fix is to allow the game to do that from the client side, but they still need to fix somethings server side for it to work. I wouldn't be surprised if it never ends up working properly.

[CleBrownsfan]

For you who own or have played this years Madden and NCAA - which one is better?

[Eaglesfan27]

I've only played 2 games of Madden at my friend's house, but I prefer NCAA's gameplay for the moment now that it has been patched. I think my gameplay view could change after Madden is patched, but overall I think I'll still prefer NCAA over Madden because of the dynasty being better than Madden's franchise.

[MizzouRah]

I've noticed some great things post patch, mainly the kick and punt coverage is much improved as well as the pursuit angles.

I'll see how everything goes once my first season is over, but so far it's been one of my favorite console football games I've played in a long... long.. time.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm dying to try the game now post-patch, but I don't know what slider set to use. So confused. :(

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm dying to try the game now post-patch, but I don't know what slider set to use. So confused. :(

I like AA's on OS very much. I was getting sick of the game pre-patch, now I can't get enough of it. I've blown out teams that are much weaker, had fights with equal teams, and gotten beat by better teams. Here is the settings from his slider set:



All American
7min quarters

Offense Human/CPU
QB Accuracy 40/50*
Pass Block 0/0
WR Catch 15/15
RB Ability 45/60
Run Block 25*/100

Defense
Awareness 50/100
Knockdown 100/100
Interception 0/0
Break Block 65/100
Tackle 25/30

Special Teams
FG Power 5/15
FG Accuracy 0/30*
Punt Power 45/50
Punt Accuracy 50/70
Kickoff Power 50/65

All Penalties Maxed out at 100.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've noticed some great things post patch, mainly the kick and punt coverage is much improved as well as the pursuit angles.

I'll see how everything goes once my first season is over, but so far it's been one of my favorite console football games I've played in a long... long.. time.

The coverage is huge, I no longer feel like I'm cheating when I get a big return (which is rare.) I agree that the pursuit angles seem at least a bit tighter and it makes a difference. The DE's are definitely more effective as well, particularly when they are high rated.

[MizzouRah]

The coverage is huge, I no longer feel like I'm cheating when I get a big return (which is rare.) I agree that the pursuit angles seem at least a bit tighter and it makes a difference. The DE's are definitely more effective as well, particularly when they are high rated.

Definitely.. oh yeah.. my DL had 4 sacks today!

[RainMaker]

That's great news about the patch. I forgot about the game and may now throw it back on and see the improvements.

[Icy]

Grrrrrr PS3 patch is not out yet :/

[dervack]

Grrrrrr PS3 patch is not out yet :/
The first one is here. Were these fixes that 360 fans talking about only in the second patch?

[Icy]

The first one is here. Were these fixes that 360 fans talking about only in the second patch?

Yes, sadly, the 1st patch was just to fix the roster editing problem, the 2nd one is the gameplay fixing one.

[dervack]

Yes, sadly, the 1st patch was just to fix the roster editing problem, the 2nd one is the gameplay fixing one.
Oh. I bought the game back when it game out, but haven't messed with it much yet. I was waiting for some of the bugs to be fixed. I guess I'll still be waiting.

[Galaxy]

I've noticed some great things post patch, mainly the kick and punt coverage is much improved as well as the pursuit angles.

I'll see how everything goes once my first season is over, but so far it's been one of my favorite console football games I've played in a long... long.. time.


You should sign up for the waiting list for one of the FOFC online dynasty leagues. You'll have a blast.

[Phototropic]

Don't feel too bad PS3 people...we may have the patch, but we don't have any post-patch rosters. :(

[MizzouRah]

You should sign up for the waiting list for one of the FOFC online dynasty leagues. You'll have a blast.

If I had more time, I would love to do that.

[MizzouRah]

Yeah.. I'd say post patch this game is the best next gen football game I've ever played.

Just beat Buffalo 45-22 and it was such a fun game. Mizzou is now ranked #5 in the nation, we're 4-0 with a bye week and then we head to Nebraska who is 3-0 so far this season. South Carolina beat #1 Georgia, so it's going to be a battle to keep winning and fighting for that National Championship this year.

Maclin is so damn fast, I love getting him the ball in the open field!!!

[Eaglesfan27]

An update of sorts on the status of the PS3's 2nd patch from over on OS. People are upset over there at the 2nd fiddle status that the PS3 development seems to be taking in regard to patches compared to the 360:

Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates.

We discovered that there was potential for a really bad desync (about 10% of all online games) to have been introduced in the second patch. We decided to have Sony hold off on testing while we verified if this desync actually existed. After doing some extensive testing last week we determined that this desync does not occur, so we are now talking to Sony to get this back into testing. At the moment I'm not sure what the estimated release is, but we will do whatever we can to get it to you guys ASAP.

I know a lot of you are really looking forward to this patch and I apologize for the delay, but the important thing to keep in mind is that getting the patch late is a lot better than getting a patch where you would desync in 10% of your games.

[Anthony]

i'm not in agreement of "i dominate weaker teams, get a tough matchup against equal teams and get beat by the powerhouse teams" sort of thinking. i like to think that any game is winnable for me - why waste my time in my Stanford solo dynasty if i know right off the bat i won't be able to beat USC? why play that game then? why should i be happy with participating in a game that no matter what i do i have no chance of winning it as soon as the coin toss is over?

i like to think that no matter what team as long as i execute my gameplan perfectly then i have a small reasonable chance (instead of no chance) to win. and really, that's what college football - or any football, nay, any sport - is about. it's not about USC having a larger amount of more dominant players than my Stanford team. it's that they don't have a such a small window for failure that i do. they have more players with which to consistently execute their gameplan with. it's not the fact that they have better players, period. since my Stanford team has such a small margin for error i need to choose my plays perfectly to win. i don't like sliders that instantly make hard team unbeatable. when i'm playing Baylor i can try some new plays out and get a little more loose with my playing, i don't have that luxury with playing an Ohio State or USC - but the ability to win the game should be there whether its Baylor or USC. i'm in some NCAA online leagues where thanks to these hookey dookey sliders i'm all but assured of never being able to have Duke or Michigan State beat the Georgia's and Florida's of the world. what kind of fun is that?

[Tigercat]

PS3 patch is now out, and the game plays so much sweeter with the patch. Just in time for the first college football weekend!

[Kodos]

i'm not in agreement of "i dominate weaker teams, get a tough matchup against equal teams and get beat by the powerhouse teams" sort of thinking. i like to think that any game is winnable for me - why waste my time in my Stanford solo dynasty if i know right off the bat i won't be able to beat USC? why play that game then? why should i be happy with participating in a game that no matter what i do i have no chance of winning it as soon as the coin toss is over?

i like to think that no matter what team as long as i execute my gameplan perfectly then i have a small reasonable chance (instead of no chance) to win. and really, that's what college football - or any football, nay, any sport - is about. it's not about USC having a larger amount of more dominant players than my Stanford team. it's that they don't have a such a small window for failure that i do. they have more players with which to consistently execute their gameplan with. it's not the fact that they have better players, period. since my Stanford team has such a small margin for error i need to choose my plays perfectly to win. i don't like sliders that instantly make hard team unbeatable. when i'm playing Baylor i can try some new plays out and get a little more loose with my playing, i don't have that luxury with playing an Ohio State or USC - but the ability to win the game should be there whether its Baylor or USC. i'm in some NCAA online leagues where thanks to these hookey dookey sliders i'm all but assured of never being able to have Duke or Michigan State beat the Georgia's and Florida's of the world. what kind of fun is that?

For a lot of people, the fun is building a crappy team into a power over time, while taking your lumps along the way. If you want to win all the time, play on JV and take the best team. Not sure where the fun would come in, but I guess that's what you're after. Maybe you don't want an actual challenge. Maybe you just want to be crowned without any effort. You certainly don't fail to showboat when you do get a lead on a human. And sending taunting PMs afterward was perfectly fine. Like it or not, losing to Indiana wasn't the result of the sliders. It was just you losing to a comparably rated team.

And I loved how you showboated in our last game even when you were still down two scores in the fourth quarter. Honestly, I won't miss your presence. Sportsmanship doesn't seem to be a strong point for you, but then I guess that's not surprising.

Here is my memorial to HA in RFL. This score brought him to within a couple TDs of Indiana midway through the 4th quarter. Perfect time to showboat, right?! Why not burn some precious time off the clock to highstep down the field a bit?

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[kingnebwsu]

Wow. I would never pull that kind of shit against an FOFC'er. Maybe against some dumbass online who cheesed with Pat White all game, but not against IU.

Of course, I do pull that shit all the time against the AI...especially when up by 50 or more :)

[Groundhog]

LOL

[Kodos]

The funny thing is, if you look at the video closely, I'm not sure the ball ever crossed the plane of the goalline. Too bad I couldn't challenge!

You should have seen his fake punt in the 4th quarter with a sizable lead from a few weeks ago against me in a non-league game. Or throwing bombs late with a multiscore lead. No class whatsover. What an asshat. Rubs it in when he wins, cries and quits when his team runs into some adversity. "I want to win every game and ask people how my ass taste! Waaaaaaa!!! Why don't they just let me win?!" The guy has no character. Good riddance.

[sabotai]

I am wondering why you guys let this Anthony person, whoever he is, join and play with you guys when he, I suppose, has a track record of being like this.

[Kodos]

I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, which is always a mistake. I figured he would implode or do something to get banned quickly enough. Here's the highlights from his last RFL game against a human, for those who don't browse the NCAA online league forum. I wouldn't try to rub it in like this for anyone else but Anthony... ;)

We welcomed HA's Michigan State Spartans to Bloomington for our first Big Ten showdown of the season.

The first quarter saw a ton of offense. MSU scored on a 3-yard Lou Williams run on their opening drive, which featured a lot of no-huddle.

Trailing 7-0, Kellen Lewis led the offense out onto the field. Lewis hit WR Ray Fisher on a short pass, and Fisher took it the rest of the way for 69 yards to tie things up 7-7, still in the first. Michigan State answered with another touchdown drive, this one coming via a 44-yard run by junior RB Seth Brown.

Looking to answer once again, our offense moved its way into the red zone. Senior WR Brandon Walker-Roby found some open space in the end zone, and Lewis hit him for a 6-yard touchdown reception. After fifteen minutes, the game was deadlocked at 14-14.

Things cooled down in the second quarter, as MSU settled for a 38-yard field goal on their next possession. Seeing a chance to take the lead for the first time, Lewis and the offense took the field once more. They did not disappoint the fans, as Lewis took it in himself from 12 yards out after a nice drive to put us on top, 21-17 as we headed toward the half.

With a chance to put some space between ourselves and the Spartans, the offense came out fired up for our first possession of the second half. Things looked great as we quickly moved into their half of the field. Junior RB Bryan Payton took it 37 yards off of the option pitch to give us a 28-17 lead in the early third quarter. MSU cut it back to 28-24 on a 3-yard touchdown pass from senior QB Matthew Jackson to sophomore WR Dennis Moore, but we came right back with another TD run by Payton from one yard out.

We entered the 4th quarter with a 35-24 lead. Once again, a score came off of a big play. Junior QB Kellen Lewis broke it all the way on an option keeper from 38 yards out to give us a solid 42-24 lead. MSU was not ready to lay down yet, as they came up with a big touchdown run from Lou Williams to draw within 42-31.

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The idiot's mom must not have taught him that the object of the game was to win, as ol' "No Clue" Lou was clearly quite pleased with himself as he showboated his way down the field. To help remind dimwit Lou of what the game is played for, Hoosier RB Bryan Payton drove the point home with his third rushing TD of the game, which came from 5-yards out, to make it a three-score game at 49-31. The Spartans tried to get a cosmetic score late, but they failed, and the Hoosiers reclaimed the Old Brass Spitoon in convincing fashion, 49-31.

http://www.stunnedbunny.net/images/RFLBrassSpittoon.jpg

In all, the game saw almost 1000 yards of offense. Indiana amassed 242 yards on the ground. Payton led the way with 101 yards on 16 carries for 3 TDs. Kellen Lewis added 89 yards and 2 scores of his own on the ground, while completing 10 of 14 attempts for 212 yards, 2 TDs, and one interception. The Hoosiers are now 4-0, but still seeking respect in the polls. With a ton of recruits in town, we got just the kind of game we hoped for.

GO BIG RED!

[SFL Cat]

Did I see that right? Did Lou high-step out of bounds at around the 1 yard-line?

The Hoosiers are 4-0? Bug. ;)

[lcjjdnh]

So, I bought the game a while ago, but haven't really played it, with Power Pros taking up most of my time. College football starting, though, has me interested in picking this up. Are the best sliders to use on Xbox360 with the patch the ones EF recently posted? What roster update is the best to use?

[kingnebwsu]

fairdale kings' rosters and EF27's sliders are the best there is right now.

[Eaglesfan27]

fairdale kings' rosters and EF27's sliders are the best there is right now.

My sliders are heavily based off Auburn Alumni's from OS.

[Izulde]

I just threw my lighter in rage. #3 Arkansas going against #5 Florida in Fayetteville and the dumbass QB who for some reason got the start over Ryan Mallett in my junior year, threw 5 interceptions. Final: 28-10 Gators and there go our national title hopes probably.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, I had a horrific game to start my 2nd season last night. Sanchez just kept throwing pick after pick against the #7 ranked Tennessee team (that had the same overall ratings my USC team did) that I thought would be very winnable. We lost 52-21 as a result. There went my title hopes probably as most of our defense graduated in the past year and we are likely to lose 1 more game at some point. The sliders are playing very well for me with good challenging games when they should be and have really reinvigorated my interest in the game.

[Galaxy]

A few questions:

1) Did the patch fix the problem about players bolting to the NFL early, regardless of how much you try to talk to them (and wasting your points/time)?

2) Any tips on reading coverage? Man to man, zone, or cover 2? Where the safeties will go?

3) Do the safety shifts/man alignment work? What exactly do they do?

4) When you show a blitz, does it also disguise blitzes as well? If I decide to hot route a player from a blitz to a coverage route, will he still fake a blitz?

[Eaglesfan27]

1) That problem only existed in online dynasties. I believe it is still an issue in online dynasties (however the commish can convince them properly as they could before the patch. Of course, this is unfair and any commish of any league should not do so.) Edit to add: However, you don't actually lose your minutes if you try, even though it says you do. When you advance to week 1, you have your full 10 hours.

2. Send a man in motion. It can be a helpful tip to determine if they are in man or zone. Or just watch how tightly the man is played after you snap it.

3. They definitely work. The man alignment shifts guy around to get closer for man coverage and can help disguise some coverage when playing zone.

4. Yes, show blitz is a very useful button.

[Galaxy]

1) That problem only existed in online dynasties. I believe it is still an issue in online dynasties (however the commish can convince them properly as they could before the patch. Of course, this is unfair and any commish of any league should not do so.) Edit to add: However, you don't actually lose your minutes if you try, even though it says you do. When you advance to week 1, you have your full 10 hours.

2. Send a man in motion. It can be a helpful tip to determine if they are in man or zone. Or just watch how tightly the man is played after you snap it.

3. They definitely work. The man alignment shifts guy around to get closer for man coverage and can help disguise some coverage when playing zone.

4. Yes, show blitz is a very useful button.

Now, if a corner back is either up tight with the receiver, drop back off the line, or in a normal coverage; it doesn't mean that he is in a zone or man coverage, correct?

Do you think that "confusion" works with the offensive line and quarterback with blitzes (zone or hot routing players to drop back or blitz)?

[CraigSca]

West Virginians have excellent stamina.

http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/64297

[MizzouRah]

Am I the only one where when I play a dynasty game of NCAA I have to be completely dad duty free?

I cannot be interrupted by anything once I settle in to play a game. I'm #3 in the nation and 6-0 right now and play #9 Texas next.. who's only loss was to #1 Oklahoma.

I just started this game earlier when all hell broke loss with kids wanting this and that, dogs wanting to go outside, wife bugging me about dinner.. she got home early for work.. and I had to say.. F it.. I'll play it later this week. :)

[sooner333]

Am I the only one where when I play a dynasty game of NCAA I have to be completely dad duty free?

I cannot be interrupted by anything once I settle in to play a game. I'm #3 in the nation and 6-0 right now and play #9 Texas next.. who's only loss was to #1 Oklahoma.

I just started this game earlier when all hell broke loss with kids wanting this and that, dogs wanting to go outside, wife bugging me about dinner.. she got home early for work.. and I had to say.. F it.. I'll play it later this week. :)

So...how much were you down by?

[MizzouRah]

So...how much were you down by?

I was down 13-10 had the ball actually, start of 2nd quarter.

I'm not a cheater.. heck, I'd just sim the game over and over if that was the case. ;) I don't mind losing one bit.. but I can't stand getting into a game and then having it sit on pause for an hour and a half while I have to tend to things.

In fact, the game has been freezing a lot lately and I've noticed it happens usually when I come back from a long pause.

Edit: OU scares the shit out of me btw... and if they beat me, I'll take it like a man. :)

[MizzouRah]

After resetting the game 12 times, I finally beat Texas!

j/k I lost 31-21 and threw 5 INT's ... horrible game!!! Our BCS title game hopes just might be over... :(

[gstelmack]

Am I the only one where when I play a dynasty game of NCAA I have to be completely dad duty free?

I cannot be interrupted by anything once I settle in to play a game. I'm #3 in the nation and 6-0 right now and play #9 Texas next.. who's only loss was to #1 Oklahoma.

I just started this game earlier when all hell broke loss with kids wanting this and that, dogs wanting to go outside, wife bugging me about dinner.. she got home early for work.. and I had to say.. F it.. I'll play it later this week. :)

This is why I play legend in NCAA and superstar in Madden. With the lack of ingame saves, I'm lucky to get 30 minutes free, and these are the only modes where I can make meaningful progress in that timeframe.

When they bring back in-game saves, I'll start caring about franchise / dynasty mode again.

This is yet another reason why I miss ESPN NFL 2k5...

[MizzouRah]

I can't understand why in game saves are not standard in today's sport games. Baffles the shit out of me...

Colorado better get ready!!!

[MizzouRah]

More from my season:

#10 Missouri (11-1) vs #1 Oklahoma (12-0) in the Big 12 Championship

Must get a good nights sleep tonight... http://www.digitalsportspage.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Weird.. but I'm a little nervous!


Tulsa is #3 at (12-0) :eek:

[Radii]

Tulsa is #3 at (12-0) :eek:


This seems to become a bigger and bigger problem as time goes on. The last couple years in my single player NC State dynasty every single BCS At Large team has been an undefeated mid-major. I believe in one season there were FIVE Mid Majors that were undefeated, with only 4 at large spots, so one of them got screwed.

My new strategy to try to help alleviate this problem is going to involve me scheduling all the undefeated midmajors from the previous year to try to knock them out of the BCS myself :P

[MizzouRah]

This seems to become a bigger and bigger problem as time goes on. The last couple years in my single player NC State dynasty every single BCS At Large team has been an undefeated mid-major. I believe in one season there were FIVE Mid Majors that were undefeated, with only 4 at large spots, so one of them got screwed.

My new strategy to try to help alleviate this problem is going to involve me scheduling all the undefeated midmajors from the previous year to try to knock them out of the BCS myself :P

HAHA.. I'm already going to try to schedule Tulsa next year!

[MizzouRah]

OU kicked my ass by the tune of 44-3.. wow...

This game is my favorite console sports game of all time, I'm REALLY loving it.

Now we play in the Cotton Bowl against Auburn who is 9-3 on the year. Can Chase Daniels go out on a winning note? I hope so...

[MizzouRah]

We beat Auburn in the Cotton Bowl, 44-17 and Chase goes out on a winning note!

I spent as much time as I could convincing Maclin to stay and he told me he wanted to get a degree! YESSSS!!!!!

We'll see what we can do next year with Gabbert at the helm.

I really love this game!

[MizzouRah]

Well.. Gabbert couldn't get us going, but RS Junior Dominic Grooms came in and passed for 3 TD's and our defense seems improved as we beat Illinios 34-0 to start the season!

[Izulde]

What sliders are people using? Thought about trying to get back into this today.

[Radii]

What sliders are people using? Thought about trying to get back into this today.

EBFL Sliders - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=67198)

That's what I'm using in my solo dynasty and what I believe all three of our online leagues are using (see post #4 and post #6 in that thread)

[Izulde]

EBFL Sliders - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=67198)

That's what I'm using in my solo dynasty and what I believe all three of our online leagues are using (see post #4 and post #6 in that thread)

Thanks. :) I'll try those out in my solo Arkansas dynasty tonight.

[MizzouRah]

I'm on AA defaults with running sliders turned up for the CPU.

Barely squeaked past Ole Miss 27-19.

I'm telling you.. this is such a great game. It has me thinking gameplans while I'm at work. ;)

[dervack]

I think this might be the longest I have ever played an NCAA game and I'm still excited to play it. In fact, in my 5th year at Air Force, 7th overall after two miserable years at Duke, I landed my first 5-star recruit, the #2 QB, #3 overall prospect, which guarantees at least 3 more seasons of playing. I've been running an option type offense, but am losing my best HB after this season and have recruited some good WR, so him coming in as a pocket passer shouldn't be a problem. Also, before this season, the Big XII invited me into the conference and kicked out Kansas.

[MizzouRah]

I think this might be the longest I have ever played an NCAA game and I'm still excited to play it. In fact, in my 5th year at Air Force, 7th overall after two miserable years at Duke, I landed my first 5-star recruit, the #2 QB, #3 overall prospect, which guarantees at least 3 more seasons of playing. I've been running an option type offense, but am losing my best HB after this season and have recruited some good WR, so him coming in as a pocket passer shouldn't be a problem. Also, before this season, the Big XII invited me into the conference and kicked out Kansas.

I'm with you.. I love playing this game.

[cartman]

I am agree. With the patches, this is one of the best console sports games I've ever played.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm with you all. I'm playing in 2 MP leagues, plus playing 2 or 3 solo games a week and still having a blast with it.

[Phototropic]

Same here. I'm in 2011 with two friends, with the odd thing being that this year will be the first human v. human match up.

[Grammaticus]

I really like it too. I'm really glad they added online dynasty. It helps keep things fresh. That said, I'm also having a blast with my solo dynasty. It is a lot of fun going through the playbooks that have custom team plays.

[Kodos]

I have a court order from MBBFan to cease and desist any and all enjoyment of this EA Sports title immediately.

[Balldog]

Joined a MP league last week, I'm finally enjoying the game :)

Any PS3 people out there?

[ColtCrazy]

Totally OT, but that's a great Crean quote Kudos. Never heard that one. Great read on the IU game. Nice to see them win somewhere!

I have Madden, but I don't have this game yet. Hopefully will get it for Christmas. I've put off my Madden dynasty simply because I love importing the the draft classes from this game.

[Ironhead]

They really put together a solid game this year. Online dynasty has been such a blast I didn't start a serious offline dynasty until a couple of days ago. Trying to do the 1 star to 6 star challenge with UAB.

[Logan]

Agreed, the EBFL has been a great league, and I can see us continuing it even through NCAA 2010's release.

[Kodos]

If EA allows that. They have a history of shutting down the online for games after a new version comes out.

[Eaglesfan27]

If EA allows that. They have a history of shutting down the online for games after a new version comes out.

Yeah, that is my fear as well. We may not be able to continue our online dynasties.

[TCY Junkie]

I'm also enjoying the game after starting a dynasty.

Has anyone had a bug where you hit the goal post on an extra point and the other team catches it bug? I hit the upright and then all of a sudden I was picking a return. I can only guess it was because the guy caught it. I'm lazy and curious to find out. Does it happen every time or was the ref from Lubbock?

[Radii]

I'm also enjoying the game after starting a dynasty.

Has anyone had a bug where you hit the goal post on an extra point and the other team catches it bug? I hit the upright and then all of a sudden I was picking a return. I can only guess it was because the guy caught it. I'm lazy and curious to find out. Does it happen every time or was the ref from Lubbock?

I had it happen one time where an opponent scored and I ended up kicking off to him again after the XP, but it was many seasons ago in my single player dynasty and I don't remember the circumstances at all. It has only happened once to me in... 7 or 8 seasons now? I guess actually 10ish seasons including the online league play I've gotten in.

[kingnebwsu]

It would be a miracle if we could export our dynasties from 09 in 2010...but that's not likely to happen. I hope that 2010 doesn't have any gamebreaking glitches and has even more working sliders to make it continually challenging. I think by August we'll be ready to start up some more leagues. Hopefully all of the current leagues can make it 3-4 seasons before that happens :)

[Balldog]

Some scumbag beat the CPU 165-7 in my online dynasty, granted it was a I-AA team but so much for a "sim" league. I should've never gotten rid of the 360, so could play in the FOFC league. :(

[Logan]

If EA allows that. They have a history of shutting down the online for games after a new version comes out.

Fuck, never even crossed my mind.

[BrianD]

I finally broke down and bought a 360 and am awaiting shipping for my copy of NCAA 09. Can anyone give me a brief recap of what I'll need to do before I get started playing? I'm assuming that patching will be fairly automatic, but is there a place to download slider sets, or a resource for a suggested way of doing them myself? Any roster sets I should be getting? Anything else I am missing?

[Radii]

EBFL Sliders - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=67198)

That's what I'm using in my solo dynasty and what I believe all three of our online leagues are using (see post #4 and post #6 in that thread)


@BrianD - Sliders here, I don't know if you can download slider sets but they're easy enough to manually edit.

I have DeToxRox's roster set, you can download rosters based on his user name, I don't think any of us have had any issues with them?

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, you can download rosters from my username or DTR's. They are both copies of FK's rosters just added to our profiles for easy access.

[BrianD]

Thanks guys. You may see friend requests coming from me in the next couple of days. The request will show as coming from BrianLD.

[Kodos]

It would be a miracle if we could export our dynasties from 09 in 2010...but that's not likely to happen. I hope that 2010 doesn't have any gamebreaking glitches and has even more working sliders to make it continually challenging. I think by August we'll be ready to start up some more leagues. Hopefully all of the current leagues can make it 3-4 seasons before that happens :)

One bonus of probably having to start anew with 2010 comes out. Our OD's won't be too affected by this:

After 5 Seasons in Dynasty, All CPU Teams Suck - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/270520-after-5-seasons-dynasty-all-cpu-teams-suck.html)

[Radii]

One bonus of probably having to start anew with 2010 comes out. Our OD's won't be too affected by this:

After 5 Seasons in Dynasty, All CPU Teams Suck - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/270520-after-5-seasons-dynasty-all-cpu-teams-suck.html)

I had noticed this but hadn't really figured out the reason for it. As far as OVR ratings go, there is a regression that occurs, where most teams start out rated 60-99 in the game, after a few seasons that changes to teams OVR ratings being 50-90, and maybe 1-2 teams in the nation can keep a rating over 90. For someone with better stick skills than me, this probably kills the game very fast. For me, eh I still struggle with those top teams, because the way our slider set works, even if your O-line sucks, speed at HB and WR is so important that the CPU can put together a good offense anyway.

[Kodos]

WRs and linebackers on the OL is comical. Nice job, EA!

[Sun Tzu]

Speed is the great equalizer in this game. In the RFL, I don't have much talent on the offensive side, but my HB has a rating of 94 for speed, and I have a couple WR's who can outrun a decent amount of CB's. Even if my O-line was trash, if I lined up against a team with a 91 OVR rating but they had mostly 89/90 SPD players at the skill positions, I would have a good chance of winning 9 out of 10 times. It's when you go up against teams like OSU who have the speed and the talent that it's tough. You really have to call all the right plays at the right time, plus have a bounce or two go your way.

[Radii]

Speed is the great equalizer in this game. In the RFL, I don't have much talent on the offensive side, but my HB has a rating of 94 for speed, and I have a couple WR's who can outrun a decent amount of CB's. Even if my O-line was trash, if I lined up against a team with a 91 OVR rating but they had mostly 89/90 SPD players at the skill positions, I would have a good chance of winning 9 out of 10 times.

Totally agree (*hugs his 99 SPD HB in EBFL*) :D

[Balldog]

Some scumbag beat the CPU 165-7 in my online dynasty, granted it was a I-AA team but so much for a "sim" league. I should've never gotten rid of the 360, so could play in the FOFC league. :(

I gave this guy shit for his score, he says "yeah I know, I felt bad for them cause they couldn't stop me." Then looking at the box score, his starting QB threw 13 TD passes. Someone says thanks for playing sim, he says you are welcome.

Anyway, I bought a 360. I'm joining FOFC league(s) only. :)

[CleBrownsfan]

Anyone have a problems with Int's in the game? Any given game I throw 3-4 Int's (some are my fault - others, eh) and I pick off the CPU 3-5 times a game - and a lot of my picks are pick sixes. As for sliders I use the following

HEISMAN SLIDERS (7 min quarters)

OFFENSE HUM CPU
QB ACC 40 35
PASS BLK 25 0
WR CATCH 30 0
RB ABLTY 55 70
RUN BLK 90 100

DEFENSE HUM CPU
AWR 70 45
KNKDWNS 40 10
INT 0 0
BRK BLK 20 0
TKL 55 20

any thoughts?

[Eaglesfan27]

I have too few interceptions in my game as long as I keep QB accuracy for the CPU at 50 and human no lower than 40. With the QB accuracy being related to power (stupidly), the CPU just tries to throw too many passes that are too soft if CPU accuracy is less than 50.

[Tigercat]

One day EA will perfect the incompletion. In real life 50%+ of incompletions are passes where QBs lead a WR too much (overthrow, usually into the turf or sidelines) or too little (underthrow, into the turf). I just hope one day this will happen on a regular basis in NCAA, instead of nearly every incompletion being a drop reception, a drop interception, or a tipped ball.

[MJ4H]

Anyone know anything about the Wii version? I'm considering picking up a used copy and am only interested in the dynasty mode. I'm not interested in any other aspect. It would be nice to know if there was an ability to grab screenshots or videos, though.

[Phototropic]

One day EA will perfect the incompletion. In real life 50%+ of incompletions are passes where QBs lead a WR too much (overthrow, usually into the turf or sidelines) or too little (underthrow, into the turf). I just hope one day this will happen on a regular basis in NCAA, instead of nearly every incompletion being a drop reception, a drop interception, or a tipped ball.

The frustrating thing is it almost works. I have a QB with 80 accuracy who skips several passes a game, but he is so ridiculously off target (to the point of throwing at wrong receivers) that I'm scared to air it out.

[RainMaker]

I wish skills would have more of an impact on a player's ability. As others have said, speed is all that matters. I only recruit for speed, especially at the skill positions.

[MizzouRah]

So I beat Oklahoma as Sam Bradford is out for the season and then Texas Tech beats me... two weeks later and 2-6 Texas A&M come to town and beat us to completely ruin any chance I had at a NC.

Two years down, year 3 coming up.

I'm not sure I'll get NCAA 2010 because NCAA 09 is just that damn good.

[Young Drachma]

Ok, so I'm hanging out with my brother for Thanksgiving and he's got PS3. Who wants to tell me where I can download some updated rosters with real player names?

[Young Drachma]

Also, massively disappointed that they got rid of the create-a-school feature. I don't know who these yahoos are trying to appease, but the mascot game isn't more important than a feature that surely made a lot of fans happy.

[MizzouRah]

WOW!

Beat Oregon St. 62-52 in the holiday bowl and although in two years I haven't hit one goal, the AD of Missouri offers me a 4 year extension!!!

I guess two 11-3 years will do that for ya... I'm really excited about next year though!

[dervack]

I'm in year 3 of a 6 year extension with the Air Force and the 5-star QB came in rated an 84. I figure I will play out this extension, with him graduating and then see what else is out there. Maybe take over someone like Kentucky in the SEC. I still don't see myself trading this in anytime soon.

[Groundhog]

Hmmm. Maybe I need to quit being lazy and cart my PS3 upstairs to get the patch for this game and give it another try. I was looking forward to this nearly as much as I was CH2K8, but I've only logged about 4 hours total time with NCAA Football 09 in the months I've owned it, mostly because I just wasn't happy with it out of the box.

[vex]

Don't really feel like reading all 34 pages:)...is '09 that much of a step over '08? Worth buying this late in the game or just wait until '10? Grazie.

[Sun Tzu]

yesh

[Kodos]

While it's not great by any means (too many bugs), it is much better than '08.

[RainMaker]

What sliders are you guys using?

[Cuckoo]

I haven't posted here, but I agree completely with MizzouRah. This game has held my interest longer than any I've had in a long time, and I'm still playing it (put down Madden some time ago). I had '08 on PS2, so it's hard for me to compare between generations since '09 next-gen is such a big step forward.

[Radii]

What sliders are you guys using?


Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - RFL slider poll (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1815691&postcount=12)

At least RFL and EBFL are using these,I used it in my single player dynasty as well.

[Radii]

I have been itching to play more NCAA09 than just the couple games per week I get in the online leagues, but every time I go to resume my NC State Dynasty the thought of the O-line and recruiting/dynasty issues bug me enough that I just play something else instead. Even if I never play another single player dynasty again though I've still gotten more out of this game than any NCAA/Madden version ever.

[Phototropic]

I'm almost through 5 seasons of an online league. I've not seen the issue of other positions playing oline, but there has been a drop off in the ratings. I would suggest using some house rules on recruiting relative to team prestige to keep things balanced. With that said, I've not had an easy time on defense because of weaker olines.

The base roster I used was very accurate, but the ratings were much higher all around than the new recruits coming in. I'm hoping things will balance out now as all of the original players will be gone.

[MizzouRah]

I don't think it's buggy at all... especially after the patch.

I played about 3 games of NCAA 08.. imho 09 KILLS 08.

I let the CPU do most of my recruiting, I just like playing my games.. Maclin is a beast and I'm so happy he decided to stay for his junior and senior years!

I play on AS defaults with CPU running and run blocking up. I'm not messing with anything else until I win a Championship.. which might be never. :)

Finally landed my first 5 star recruit last season, a HB from North Carolina.

I'd say it's approaching one of my favorite games of all time.

[MJ4H]

Anyone know anything about the Wii version? (anything useful, not just that it is missing useless modes which is all the reviews say)

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't think it's buggy at all... especially after the patch.

I played about 3 games of NCAA 08.. imho 09 KILLS 08.

I let the CPU do most of my recruiting, I just like playing my games.. Maclin is a beast and I'm so happy he decided to stay for his junior and senior years!

I play on AS defaults with CPU running and run blocking up. I'm not messing with anything else until I win a Championship.. which might be never. :)

Finally landed my first 5 star recruit last season, a HB from North Carolina.

I'd say it's approaching one of my favorite games of all time.

Most of the bugs only affect online dynasties. The offline modes are relatively bug free.

[Radii]

I started a campus legend career with a MLB, I've never tried campus legend with a defensive player. i ended up making the state finals, getting 5-8 tackles per game and a couple sackes in the playoffs. I had offers from every team in the top 25, I'm a 79 rated freshman, 2nd string behind a 88 rated junior for Oklahoma.

I may go back to my NC State dynasty and look over the rosters to see how bad they are for other teams. I know ratings degrade over time but I'm more worried about O-line depth, etc. I'm in 2017 and have won 2 national titles in a row, I think I've won my last 30ish games in a row going back to 2015. I know a little more about the game now to make things more fair(never call option runs being rule #1).

Another option would be to start a new dynasty with more restrictions from the start to build up, and trying to pick a team at a more severe disadvantage than even NC State... worst team in the nation in a major conference, etc. Baylor? I definitely don't want to let the CPU completely take over recruiting. Maybe require myself to only use quick calls?

[Senator]

QUESTION:

Not that anyone probably has a PS2 anymore, but we do. NCAA2008 had a cool feature where you played high school football somewhere and then was given a scholarship somewhere based on your success. The PS3 and XBOX offered this, but the PS2 did not. Does any diehard out there know if the NCAA2009 for the PS2 offers the high school opening?

[Balldog]

QUESTION:

Not that anyone probably has a PS2 anymore, but we do. NCAA2008 had a cool feature where you played high school football somewhere and then was given a scholarship somewhere based on your success. The PS3 and XBOX offered this, but the PS2 did not. Does any diehard out there know if the NCAA2009 for the PS2 offers the high school opening?

I'll try to check today.

[Senator]

thanks

[Balldog]

thanks

You basically just go to a summer camp - run through some drills then allocate the rating points you earned during the drills. You then get scholarship offers based on your OVR.

[Senator]

Want to make sure. So, on the PS2 for 09 you DO NOT go through picking your high school and playing playoffs before going to a college based on your performance.

Maybe it is time to upgrade to another system.

[Balldog]

Want to make sure. So, on the PS2 for 09 you DO NOT go through picking your high school and playing playoffs before going to a college based on your performance.

You are correct, you do not do the high school thing like you do on the PS3 and 360.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So apparently you have to be at least 13 y/o to play EA games online?

Sucks to be my son, who just spent half his remaining Christmas cash buying a second copy of NCAA 09 (he already had it for PS2) so he could finally play h2h online (which seems to be the overriding reason he wanted a 3rd gen system in the first place).

At no time do I ever recall hearing this mentioned anywhere before and it's even relatively difficult to Google up anything about it.

[cartman]

So apparently you have to be at least 13 y/o to play EA games online?

Sucks to be my son, who just spent half his remaining Christmas cash buying a second copy of NCAA 09 (he already had it for PS2) so he could finally play h2h online (which seems to be the overriding reason he wanted a 3rd gen system in the first place).

At no time do I ever recall hearing this mentioned anywhere before and it's even relatively difficult to Google up anything about it.

Is this for Xbox Live? If so, when he registered, he probably clicked on the "I am under 13 years of age" box. This flagged the account for COPPA compliance, meaning they can't collect his personal information unless you or your wife allows it. There should have been a message sent that asked you for permission to allow him to register and play online. You might want to contact support to get him activated.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Is this for Xbox Live? If so, when he registered, he probably clicked on the "I am under 13 years of age" box. This flagged the account for COPPA compliance, meaning they can't collect his personal information unless you or your wife allows it. There should have been a message sent that asked you for permission to allow him to register and play online. You might want to contact support to get him activated.

Actually, I went through all of that - having to register for a silver account myself in order to verify him for online play on his gold account and finally had to give up & remove nearly all of the parental safeguards (friends only, approval required for friends list, video, audio, etc) to finally get things to work okay. But since then he's played COD:WaW online already, the two board games last night, the online (live play) demo for some other shooter earlier today.

Best I could tell from the limited Google info I could find, this is some sort of restrictions on EA's part (or at least seemed to be). A user in the UK had recently posted the same problem with FIFA 08 and their 12 year old. As for EA I've tried their support section, their FAQ, and their forum and can't even get a hit for "age" or "age limit" or "age restriction" or much of anything else.
(about as worthless an excuse for online support as I've seen in recent memory IMO).

It just seems f'n nuts that there's a scenario where a kid can blow shit up into little pieces but can't play football online.

[cartman]

It's not EA, it the government. It's COPPA (Child Online Privacy Protection Act).

Children's Online Privacy Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPPA)

Sony recently got a pretty hefty fine for collecting info from those under 13 without authorization, so it's not surprising that companies are being more careful about it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

But surely COPPA doesn't require them to make it damned near impossible to find the info and once you do find some to write it in a nearly indecipherable fashion.

When I logged on as me & went through the creation mode, sure enough in the mouse type of the agreement was a confusing explanation about the procedure (by fax or mail) to authorize users under 18 (or 14 or 13, depending upon your jurisdiction) to participate in online activities. But from that there's very little info about how/where to contact them to get the form to fill out, nor is it clear due to some wording on down the section whether it would actually do any good to go through the process since EA (loosely quoting here but pretty close) reserves the right to restrict certain areas from users under 18/14/12.

edit to add: It appears that I've found a phone number for EA support, we'll see if that does any good.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, talked to a live human at EA (just say "operator" during the voice menu & it transfers you).

The form I needed to fill out is from XBox not EA ... but the support guy indicated that XBox wasn't really enthusiastic about helping them with anything. His advice? Lie about the kid's age & just set him up a new account making sure to have him be over age 13.

Did that, declined the gold offer & was given a free one month trial for his new tag. About all we'll lose is his achievements on Fallout 3, so I guess all's well that ends well enough.

So now then, back to NCAA09. I found the AA sliders that seem to be the preferred FOFC settings but what roster set should we be looking for again?

I got the ones from locked tagged "ExtremeGamer" as recommended at Free NCAA Football 09 Rosters Downloads for Xbox 360 PS3 PS2 and Other Consoles (http://www.freencaa09rosters.com/) (which I found a referral to at pastapadre.com). But his site also refers people to NCAA Football 09 & NCAA Basketball 09 at ncaa Strategies (http://www.ncaastrategies.com/) which lists a roster set in the "Fairdale Kings" locker ... and I have no idea which is better, worse, or if they're the same set or what. Or is there another set that is the FOFC favorite that I can easily download without having to ask someone to go through the hassle of adding us as friends,etc?

Thanks in advance.

[MizzouRah]

I use Fairdale Kings...

[Eaglesfan27]

You don't have to have someone as a friend to use their roster set. I have Fairdale Kings' roster set uploaded to my gamertag. You can easily download his tag or mine. My tag is Eaglesfan27.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Thanks guys, heck of a learning curve for us oldtimers. I'm finally getting adjusted to having a TV that doesn't have rabbit ears though, so there's probably some hope ;)

[BrianD]

Thanks guys, heck of a learning curve for us oldtimers. I'm finally getting adjusted to having a TV that doesn't have rabbit ears though, so there's probably some hope ;)

Have heart Jon. I went through this same process (minus the child) about two months ago and had to ask most of these same questions. It takes some time, but it does get easier.

[MizzouRah]

Us old farts are always welcome to help!

[cartman]

Operation Sports revisited NCAA Football '09 to see how well the patches improved the game.

NCAA Football 09 Postmortem - Operation Sports (http://www.operationsports.com/feature.php?id=801)

Their sentiments seem to echo what those of us here have been saying, that the game is pretty damn good after the two patches.

[Radii]

There was a featured article the day before with a wish list for NCAA 10. The only disappointing thing to me is that the poor defensive pursuit angles aren't explicitly mentioned as one of the big gameplay flaws, or needs for improvement in the 2010 version

[BrianD]

There was a featured article the day before with a wish list for NCAA 10. The only disappointing thing to me is that the poor defensive pursuit angles aren't explicitly mentioned as one of the big gameplay flaws, or needs for improvement in the 2010 version

That is one of my biggest disappointments with the 09 game. I always feel like I should run out of bounds when a tackler has a good angle on me but chooses one that will never work.

[Butter]

After 1 1/2 seasons with Clemson and another half with Ohio State, I feel like I am about ready to unleash my high quality skills on another FOFCer, or in an online league.

Any FOFC run leagues with openings? Or anyone want to take me on via online over the next couple of days?

[RainMaker]

Operation Sports revisited NCAA Football '09 to see how well the patches improved the game.

NCAA Football 09 Postmortem - Operation Sports (http://www.operationsports.com/feature.php?id=801)

Their sentiments seem to echo what those of us here have been saying, that the game is pretty damn good after the two patches.

I wouldn't put too much stock in what they write. They do have a bit of an EA bias. They missed some of the most glaring gameplay flaws.

I agree the game is better with the patches, but it sucks it took two. I'm getting tired of sports games treating release date like the launch of a beta. Both 2K and EA do this now.

[Kodos]

And the patches didn't address issues with poor player distribution in recruiting classes (few high quality guards, centers, or MLBs) or the OD issues where you can't convince players to stay.

It's been a fun game online, but without online leagues, this game probably would have been on the shelf a long time ago.

[Kodos]

After 1 1/2 seasons with Clemson and another half with Ohio State, I feel like I am about ready to unleash my high quality skills on another FOFCer, or in an online league.

Any FOFC run leagues with openings? Or anyone want to take me on via online over the next couple of days?

I'd probably be willing to boot DeToxRox out of the RFL to clear some space for you. :D

I think EBFL might have one slot open.

[CraigSca]

That is one of my biggest disappointments with the 09 game. I always feel like I should run out of bounds when a tackler has a good angle on me but chooses one that will never work.

No way, DOOD! MORe alterNate UNIS! BoWl Patchez!

[Kodos]

The uniform people drive me nuts. "Their socks are slightly wrong color of blue! GAMEKILLER!"

[Butter]

And the patches didn't address issues with poor player distribution in recruiting classes (few high quality guards, centers, or MLBs) or the OD issues where you can't convince players to stay.

It's been a fun game online, but without online leagues, this game probably would have been on the shelf a long time ago.

There are literally 2 Centers in the top 1500 recruits in my Clemson dynasty. Uh, great.

[RainMaker]

The uniform people drive me nuts. "Their socks are slightly wrong color of blue! GAMEKILLER!"
Almost as bad as some of the rating nazis.

"The 3rd string RG is a 73 in strength but he should be a 78. GOD EA SUCKS AT RATINGS SO BAD!"

[Kodos]

But at least teams can load up on quarterbacks! We need 17 of 'em. Can never have enough QBs in the stable!

[Butter]

I recruited a bunch of Athletes last year... and I ended up with about 9 safeties by the end of preseason and had to cut a few.

[MizzouRah]

I'm in my third season with Mizzou and we are #3 in the nation at (8-0), some really close games so far as I really picked harder teams to play in our non-conference schedule this year.

North Carolina comes in and I get my butt handed to me 72-32, the worst loss ever since I started playing. Of course it didn't help I threw a career high 9 - yes 9! interceptions.. all my fault of course.

NC has 3 really good CB's this year and not of my passing plays would work.

That's why this game has me coming back for more... I had NC hopes this season, but it looks like that is over with. :(

[Balldog]

For some reason the gameplay never grew on me, I think because it seems all that matters is speed.

[MizzouRah]

This is the GREATEST game ever made!!!

#1 Football game in my book

[Groundhog]

I actually downloaded the patch finally on the weekend and gave this game another shot. It's pretty good fun, but stuff like the pursuit angles really kill it for me, and though I didn't experience it the lack of talented recruits at certain positions (the very same problem that made next-gen Madden drafts suck) is another game killer for me.

CH 2K8 is still the greatest sports game IMO.

[MizzouRah]

I'm not much on basketball... but you're not alone in your choice GH.

I will agree about the pursuit angles.. but there is no football game that gives me the satisfaction when I beat a good team.

Last night I'm #11 in the country at 10-1 (Maclin's last year) and we play #2 Georgia Tech who is 11-0 and a W here would put them against Ohio St. for the National Championship.

They play a very conservative game due to the fact that their #1 QB is out for the season and their #1 RB Jonathan Dwyer has a broken hand.. I decide to start our highly recruited freshman RB this game due to the fact he's been a beast in limited mop up duty and our #1 RB has not been good.

It's a great game and we manage a 28-16 win.. but it was VERY close and when GT pounced on the onside kick with about 4 mins left.. I was getting worried. We did manage to block a FG early in the game which was really big!!

The thing that's so tough about playing NCAA 09 is that one loss pretty much ends that quest for a NC. I still cringe when I think about the mistake I made by putting North Carolina on our schedule this year.

[rjolley]

So, with the patch and pursuit angles issue, is 09 the one to get, or is 08 better to get for < $10 and wait for NCAA10? Same comparison for Madden.

The plan is to get one or the other to last until the new versions come out in the fall. If 09 is not worth it, I'd rather pay $20 for the 08 versions and wait until the fall.

[Groundhog]

I never played 08, but from what I've read you're definitely better of getting 09 as it's a big jump in quality.

I don't know when 10 is slated to come out, but It might be better just waiting for that at this stage - assuming it's an improvement on 09. Of course, this is EA we are talking about, so that's certainly not a safe assumption. ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

I'd definitely go for 09 over 08 if for no other reason than to join an online league. However, the gameplay is also better in 09, still far from perfect, but a step up from 08. The next version should be out in mid July as that has been the release window for years now.

[MizzouRah]

IMO 08 was garbage.. in fact, 09 is the first NCAA FB game I've really played since 2004 (I think that was the version on the ps2 I loved)

[Raiders Army]

I like 09. Every version has its warts, but I've probably played this one more than any other because Madden is so bad this year and because of the online league in NCAA.

[rjolley]

So, the pursuit angle issue is overblown?

I rented 09 on Saturday and just got a chance to put it in (couldn't put down my latest NBA2k8 dynasty). So far, it's been fun. I'm going through the challenges to get a feel for the controls. I'll dive into a game sometime tonight or tomorrow (Lost is on tonight, so I'm guessing tomorrow) and see if it's worth the $40+.

Thanks for the responses.

[Balldog]

So, the pursuit angle issue is overblown?

No not at all, unless you don't mind being escorted to the end zone by the defense. It doesn't happen all the time but it happens way to much.

[Kodos]

I'd grab NCAA 09 over Madden. I returned Madden because it just wasn't enjoyable for me. And NCAA 09 is superior to 08. But it still has warts. Speed is the only attribute that matters much. But it is fun to play online. If you only want to play solo, you might be better off just waiting for 2010.

[MizzouRah]

I disagree Kodos.. although speed is a huge factor (like it should be), I find that agility is a big factor as well.

Bottom line for me, is it fun? Hell yes it is!

[dervack]

Yeah, I think I'm going to pass on '10 unless there is something in it that wows me. 09 has been a blast.

[wade moore]

I disagree Kodos.. although speed is a huge factor (like it should be), I find that agility is a big factor as well.

Bottom line for me, is it fun? Hell yes it is!

Agility may matter some, but speed is by far king of this game - quite a bit too much imo.

[Radii]

I disagree Kodos.. although speed is a huge factor (like it should be), I find that agility is a big factor as well.

Heh, check out the EBFL, I had a freshman RB that was rated 76 OVR, nothing special at all anywhere but he had 99 SPD. He ran for 500 yards in his first game against a cupcake, broke 1000 yards in game 3, ran for 250ish against an extremely highly rated Florida State, broke Barry Sanders single season yardage and TD records with 2 or 3 games to go, etc etc etc.

Speed is ridiculous in this game.

That's not to say I wouldn't recommend NCAA09. I'm having a blast playing, and it took quite awhile before any of the flaws became so so obvious to me. I don't play in single player anymore but I am still loving the online dynasties and hope they keep going strong until '10 comes out.

[MizzouRah]

Wow.. I have a 99 rated WR (Maclin) and although he has broken a few records, some games he's non-exsistant. I don't schedule cupcakes though.. always top 25 teams - because I agree, I can really rack up yardage against those teams.

I'm just about done with season 3 and about to see what life is without J Mac.. still no National Championships either.

I think fixing the pursuit angles will alleviate issues such as that. I mean, when players like J Mac get into the open field, he should go the distance, but I agree, even players close to him speed wise, don't have a chance sometimes.

I do notice teams do not kickoff to him anymore, which is a nice touch..

The good thing is, I don't think there is that much that needs fixed, just some overall gameplay issues.

[ColtCrazy]

I apologize if this was mentioned but I'm way too tired today to read through 35 pages! :) Does anyone know how to download some rosters for the 360 version? I bought a 1 month card to see if I could do it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I apologize if this was mentioned but I'm way too tired today to read through 35 pages! :) Does anyone know how to download some rosters for the 360 version? I bought a 1 month card to see if I could do it.

Posts #1690, 1691, and 1692 in this thread has the gamer tag for a couple of sets that seem to be the preferred options. I could find 'em easily because I had the exact same question less than a month ago myself.

FWIW, I'm using the extreme gamer ones and which I had tried the fairdale king ones instead. (check those posts for the correct spelling of their gamer tags). Something really seemed wrong with GT's Jonathan Dwyer being a little used fullback throughout his career while Roddy Jones spent quite a bit of time leading the NCAA in rushing for a couple of seasons.

[ColtCrazy]

Posts #1690, 1691, and 1692 in this thread has the gamer tag for a couple of sets that seem to be the preferred options. I could find 'em easily because I had the exact same question less than a month ago myself.

FWIW, I'm using the extreme gamer ones and which I had tried the fairdale king ones instead. (check those posts for the correct spelling of their gamer tags). Something really seemed wrong with GT's Jonathan Dwyer being a little used fullback throughout his career while Roddy Jones spent quite a bit of time leading the NCAA in rushing for a couple of seasons.


Thanks a lot. I'll check those out. Itching to get a dynasty going.

[Radii]

FWIW, I'm using the extreme gamer ones and which I had tried the fairdale king ones instead. (check those posts for the correct spelling of their gamer tags). Something really seemed wrong with GT's Jonathan Dwyer being a little used fullback throughout his career while Roddy Jones spent quite a bit of time leading the NCAA in rushing for a couple of seasons.

Yeah Jones seems a bit overrated out of the box, but Dwyer still has more speed and was a much better runner for me. I just ended up bumping Dwyer up to #1 on my depth chart and had a couple great seasons with him.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yeah Jones seems a bit overrated out of the box, but Dwyer still has more speed and was a much better runner for me. I just ended up bumping Dwyer up to #1 on my depth chart and had a couple great seasons with him.

Once (or if) I get pretty decent at this I'm going to try running another dynasty with GT & this roster set just to see if I can improve on what I saw for Dwyer while I was busy getting my butt kicked at MTSU.

[ColtCrazy]

Well, first of all, thanks Eaglesfan27...I ended up downloading your rosters, it wouldn't let me get the ones from Fairdale Kings.

I've only played a few games on this, mostly messed around with Campus Legend since I got this game about 2 weeks ago. Decided to play some games online last night.

First game, I was Indiana facing Notre Dame. I was losing 28-7 at halftime. I could not stop the deep pass. The guy asked if I wanted a mercy out, I said no...and played much better in the 2nd half. He never ran, so I went exclusively to a quarter defense. I ended up losing 43-28.

The 2nd game I was Ole Miss facing Miami. What a difference a team with some talent makes. I won by 12 going back to my usual run/short passing game combo that works well in Madden.

In game 3, I ran against Florida. I had Texas. This was my favorite game of the night. I was down early 14-0, came back to take a 3 point led at halftime. Started the 2nd half with a horrible interception and gave up a quick TD. We traded TDs after that and I had the ball, 3 minutes left down 29-35. I ended up getting first and goal on the one with 50 seconds left. Florida had 2 timeouts. I knelt on the first play to make him blow a timeout. I was worried about doing it again (should have) and ended up scoring on the next play. I'm up 36-35. He ends up completing a deep pass on 3rd and long (again, couldn't stop the deep ball because I shouldn't have switched to the CB) and he wins on a TD with 20 seconds or so left. I lost, but really enjoyed that game. Whoever he was, he was a great challenge.

The last game was USC (me) vs. Florida again. Both Tebow and Sanchez get hurt in the first half and I'm leading 13-10. Tebow comes back in the 3rd...Sanchez does not. Whoever USC's backup is was horrible on accuracy. 3 2nd half INTs and I'm down now 31-16. I end up with a purist drive (2 passes, the rest runs) to score at the end to make it a respectable 31-22.

Overall, a fun night. Thanks again for pointing out the rosters. I'll be starting a dynasty with someone tonight.

[cartman]

Regarding the downloadable rosters, does anyone know if there is a set that has been updated now that the season is over, so that the players can reflect how they actually performed, rather than how they were projected to perform? I did a search, and if this was already answered, I must have missed it.

[MizzouRah]

Finally won the Big 12 Championship last night.. what a game it was against Texas!!!

The game was back an forth all night.. Maclin ran a kickoff back to the house, then on the ensuing kickoff to Texas, Vondrell McGee takes it to the house.

Missouri CB Robert Steeples picked off two passes and ran one back for a TD... sealing the game late in the 3rd quarter..

Maclin also wins the Heisman!!

Next we face TCU in the Fiesta Bowl.. should be an interesting game.

[Eaglesfan27]

Well, first of all, thanks Eaglesfan27...I ended up downloading your rosters, it wouldn't let me get the ones from Fairdale Kings..

Just to be clear, they aren't mine. They were done by Fairdale Kings. I just uploaded them to my username after downloading them from FK because some people were having trouble downloading from his tag and I wanted to make it easy for fellow FOFC players to get them.

[Kodos]

Get your name in the game! - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/288853-get-your-name-game.html)

This is pretty cool. You can submit your last name so that Brad Nessler will say your name in NCAA 2010.

[CleBrownsfan]

Get your name in the game! - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/288853-get-your-name-game.html)

This is pretty cool. You can submit your last name so that Brad Nessler will say your name in NCAA 2010.

I bet this will be the #1 "added feature" for 2010 :lol:

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Get your name in the game! - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/288853-get-your-name-game.html)

This is pretty cool. You can submit your last name so that Brad Nessler will say your name in NCAA 2010.

Yay! Yet another addition to the game that does nothing to address the issues with the previous edition's gameplay. And they wonder why sales numbers keep declining......

**sigh**

[dervack]

I wonder why EA doesn't use the same name Library for all games. My last name isn't said in any of the EA franchises except NHL, and that's because there is an NHL player with the same last name, same pronunciation. It's cool when you play the be a pro mode and they actually say your name when you score a goal.

[rjolley]

I wonder why EA doesn't use the same name Library for all games. My last name isn't said in any of the EA franchises except NHL, and that's because there is an NHL player with the same last name, same pronunciation. It's cool when you play the be a pro mode and they actually say your name when you score a goal.
I've always wondered that. Seems like they would do the database once and just update it. But, I guess some people would complain when the announcer says "Jordan scores" the same way this year as he did 5 years ago. I think it's much cooler to hear my name in the game or to see random players created with my last name. By now, they should be able to do that reasonably well.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, that was ... different.

Upstart MTSU playing as a big underdog against #22 UCF in the C-USA title game, down 14-0 in the first 30 seconds after enduring a 98 yd KOR touchdown followed by fumbling the ensuing kickoff and having it run back 38 yds for a score as well.

Somehow the scrappy little team that could had fought back to a 31-28 lead and was seconds away from an unlikely conference title. With the ball inside the UCF 5 & the Knights out of time outs still the clock didn't really favor just taking a knee when the inside running game is so reliable. Figure to hand it to the fullback one more time, he's a senior that doesn't fumble, a score puts it on ice or gets the clock down to where a 4th down knee would run out the clock, not a problem.

He fumbles and yep, you guessed it, UCF d-lineman rumbles 98 yards for the game winner. An entire nation of blue simply sat in stunned silence, except for one man.

A head coach who was being restrained from committing a major felony with some zebras as the intended victims. Finally in exasperation he launches a desperation heave ... of his challenge flag. And, after further review, the runner's knee was down before he lost possession, the call on the field is reversed.

It felt scripted as all hell, the fumble, the DL outrunning all my backs & receivers, would-be tacklers simply bouncing off the guy as he lumbered down the sideline, all of it. Even my son, sitting beside me on the coach, watching in a mix of horror & awe repeating with increasing volume "Oh ... My ... God. Are you kidding me? Are you KIDDING me? Oh ... my ... God" was a well defined "Dad sucks at this" moment.

But given my level of general suckitude with button mashers, I'll take the win and the conference title that goes with it thank you very much.

Naturally I still only receive the bid for the #4 team in the conference overall (Texas Bowl vs the Longhorns) instead of the Liberty Bowl berth that goes to the #1 team from C-USA but hey ... at least I'm bowling and for a third straight year at that.

[RainMaker]

Naturally I still only receive the bid for the #4 team in the conference overall (Texas Bowl vs the Longhorns) instead of the Liberty Bowl berth that goes to the #1 team from C-USA but hey ... at least I'm bowling and for a third straight year at that.
If you win the conference, why don't you go to the Liberty Bowl? Is it done by standings in real life too?

[JonInMiddleGA]

If you win the conference, why don't you go to the Liberty Bowl? Is it done by standings in real life too?

I just attributed it to one of those "the bowl gets first pick, not bound to champion" deals. Ain't like there's shit I could do about it anyway, easier to swallow by kayfabing it that way in my head.

[cartman]

Yay! Yet another addition to the game that does nothing to address the issues with the previous edition's gameplay. And they wonder why sales numbers keep declining......

**sigh**

You want to rethink that?

According to NPD, NCAA Football sold similar numbers for the 2008 and 2009 versions.

2008: Gamasutra - NPD: Console Sales Up 140% In July Led By Wii, DS (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15248)
2009: NPD: NCAA Football sacks July - News at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6195969.html)

[Ironhead]

I really have to say this year's version of the game is truly solid. Over half a year later I am still participating in 2 online leagues. I even recently picked up my solo dynasty again after finding some challenging but fair enough sliders for Heisman.

[Grammaticus]

I really have to say this year's version of the game is truly solid. Over half a year later I am still participating in 2 online leagues. I even recently picked up my solo dynasty again after finding some challenging but fair enough sliders for Heisman.

What are the Heisman settings/sliders you are using? I would like to see if I can get the solo dynasty engaging again.

Thanks

[BrianD]

I haven't yet got to the point where the solo dynasty is too easy. I'm in year 2 with Wisconsin using the same setup as the EBFL and am current 3-3. This game does a good job of making it tough to beat teams you shouldn't beat.

[Ironhead]

What are the Heisman settings/sliders you are using? I would like to see if I can get the solo dynasty engaging again.

Thanks

If I remember correctly I had found these over at OS. Not sure who's they were though.

Heisman Difficulty
7 minute quarters

All penalty sliders at 95

Human/CPU

QB Accuracy - 40/45
Pass Blocking - 0/0
WR Catching - 10/0
RB Ability - 45/65
Run Blocking - 0/100

Awareness - 0/75
Knockdowns - 95/95
Interceptions - 0/45
Break Block - 50/75
Tackle - 50/50

FG Power - 0/0
FG Accuracy - 0/0
Punt Power - 50/50
Punt Accuracy - 0/50
Kickoffs - 65/65


I am pretty deep into dynasty mode at this point (season 2017 I believe) and have moved up the coaching ladder to FSU. We have a good team and get challenging games from the mid-level ACC teams. The better teams like Clemson and Virginia Tech are very tough.

I will say that I thought they sucked the first couple of games I played them. After giving them another shot they are pretty fair I think. Running is tough but very rewarding. CPU tailbacks can be tough to bring down but not to the point where I ever get frustrated.

Let me know what you think.

[Grammaticus]

If I remember correctly I had found these over at OS. Not sure who's they were though.

Heisman Difficulty
7 minute quarters

All penalty sliders at 95

Human/CPU

QB Accuracy - 40/45
Pass Blocking - 0/0
WR Catching - 10/0
RB Ability - 45/65
Run Blocking - 0/100

Awareness - 0/75
Knockdowns - 95/95
Interceptions - 0/45
Break Block - 50/75
Tackle - 50/50

FG Power - 0/0
FG Accuracy - 0/0
Punt Power - 50/50
Punt Accuracy - 0/50
Kickoffs - 65/65


I am pretty deep into dynasty mode at this point (season 2017 I believe) and have moved up the coaching ladder to FSU. We have a good team and get challenging games from the mid-level ACC teams. The better teams like Clemson and Virginia Tech are very tough.

I will say that I thought they sucked the first couple of games I played them. After giving them another shot they are pretty fair I think. Running is tough but very rewarding. CPU tailbacks can be tough to bring down but not to the point where I ever get frustrated.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks, I'll give these a try.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You want to rethink that?

According to NPD, NCAA Football sold similar numbers for the 2008 and 2009 versions.

2008: Gamasutra - NPD: Console Sales Up 140% In July Led By Wii, DS (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15248)
2009: NPD: NCAA Football sacks July - News at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6195969.html)

C'mon Cartman. You usually do a good job of researching your posts, but you really dropped the ball on this one using outdated data. Those numbers were only the first month sales.

This year's sales of NCAA Football 09 have dropped a staggering 26% on the Xbox 360, which is a record freefall for an EA football franchise. Here's the numbers for this franchise over the past three years.........

NCAA 07 Xbox 360 - 820,000
NCAA 08 Xbox 360 - 810,000
NCAA 09 Xbox 360 - 600,000

That's an unmitigated financial disaster when you're dealing with the fixed development costs that EA has. Even worse, the Wii version couldn't outsell the PS3, PS2, or 360 versions of the game despite having a clear lead in regards to installed base.