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Izulde
05-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Really good in my opinion. Not as polished as 2 was, but still easily the second-best in the series.

Celeval
05-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Meh. Too much attempted story, not enough development. Not horrid, but not up to the standard I was hoping for. C+

TheOhioStateUniversity
05-05-2007, 12:32 PM
The love story/crying was a bit sappy and corny. Some parts were very funny though like when Spidey went Goth and thought he was a ladies man, when at best he appeared to be an asexual metrosexual and at worst he appeared to be extremely gay.

dawgfan
05-05-2007, 12:37 PM
The movie was reasonably entertaining and had some funny bits (Bruce Campbell as the French Maitre d' and the J. Jonah Jameson bit with the blood pressure meds in particular, and Topher Grace was great in his role) and some impressive action. But to me, there was way too much story trying to be crammed in, and it was trying to hit too many emotional levels too quickly leaving some awkward plot contrivances, and some of the action was just too over-the-top showy to really be effective.

And while I love Kirsten Dunst, she still isn't the right actress for the role of Mary Jane Watson.

Swaggs
05-05-2007, 04:10 PM
I haven't seen this yet, but I saw Bryce Dallas Howard on one of the late night shows and they showed a clip of her falling from a building and the CGI looked more like a really good video game than a realistic movie scene. I hope there isn't too much of that.

WVUFAN
05-05-2007, 04:31 PM
Better than 2, but watching a midget wipe his ass is better than whiny emo girl Spidey only saves people when he feels like it 2. Decent story, good acting outside of McGuire/Dunst who continue to suck, and okay action scenes that were a little too CGI heavy at times. The "enhanced" cool comedy jazz scene was the best part of it all. Barely worth the $5 AM price for it. I'll probably never watch it again.

See, I thought the complete opposite, that the jazz scene was the worst part of the film (with the exception of the mini-fight at the end of it). Dunst was horrible in the film (and never should have been Mary Jane to begin with). Bryce Howard, however, was spot-on for Gwen Stacy.

I think they could have split this into two films, the first being the Sandman storyline/black suit, and have Venom be the centerpiece for the other film. Too much stuff crammed into too little time.

Karlifornia
05-05-2007, 04:33 PM
I don't have it in me to go see this moneygrab movies anymore.

Izulde
05-05-2007, 06:06 PM
They did try and put a little too much in there, which is why I said it's not as polished as 2, but I found it very enjoyable. Bruce Campbell was absolutely hysterical.

Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.

Swaggs
05-05-2007, 06:16 PM
They did try and put a little too much in there, which is why I said it's not as polished as 2, but I found it very enjoyable. Bruce Campbell was absolutely hysterical.

Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.

Her monologue at the end of first Spiderman was some historically terrible acting. I think there was/is little that she could do to recover from that.

Doug5984
05-05-2007, 06:23 PM
I saw this the other night, was really looking forward to it and I left disappointed. There was way to much "comic relief" for me- seemed like a lot of one liners, that while funny took away from the movie itself. I was hoping for a lot more action, and it just wasn't there. I also thought the ending was horrible, very anti-climatic for me.

WVUFAN
05-05-2007, 06:44 PM
I saw this the other night, was really looking forward to it and I left disappointed. There was way to much "comic relief" for me- seemed like a lot of one liners, that while funny took away from the movie itself. I was hoping for a lot more action, and it just wasn't there. I also thought the ending was horrible, very anti-climatic for me.

I agree. It should have been ...

Mary Jane and Peter walking away from each other -- sets things up between Parker (whether it be a new actor or Tobey) and Gwen Stacy.

Izulde
05-05-2007, 08:53 PM
The ending drove me a little nuts, but I'm hoping it set things up for there to be a fourth installment.

stevew
05-05-2007, 08:53 PM
I haven't gotten to see it yet, but it seems like from reviews that they crammed way too much shit into it.
Like.....

The whole "New Green Goblin" storyline. That's probably enough conflict to do a whole movie alone, to job it out in a movie with Venom and Sandman already is too much

At least it's no "Spiderman and Robin" from what I've read....with that many characters, it can easily happen.

Joe
05-05-2007, 09:40 PM
too much Mary Jane, and crappy CGI, especially the first fight with Parker and Franco

Ryche
05-05-2007, 10:01 PM
I really think they should have fleshed out the first half more and had the movie end with Brock becoming Venom. That whole scene ending with Venom appearing would have been an ideal way to end the movie leading to the next one featuring Venom. But I have a feeling we will be waiting quite awhile for the next one with a whole new cast and producer at that time.

I thought 2 was much better, mainly because of a much more cohesive storyline. Hard to compare it to the first Spiderman. The new one was fun and worth admission, but the story just wasn't as well thought out.

cthomer5000
05-06-2007, 12:44 AM
Enjoyable, but agree about simply too much going on. This and X-Men are the only popcorn flick franchises I can get behind.

The ending also drove me nuts as some others have mentioned.

dawgfan
05-06-2007, 03:19 AM
Maybe it's because I never read the comics much and when I did, I was a little kid, but I don't get this hate for Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I think she's become a character that most people have grown to care about through this now-trilogy and I'd say Tobey brings to Parker an essentially human, Everyman quality. Which I think is the appeal of Spiderman as a superhero to begin with.
I'm a big Kirsten Dunst fan, and I don't get the slamming of her acting, but she was the wrong choice for this role. Kirsten Dunst's MJ is a good character and all - it's just not the MJ of the comics. Dunst's MJ is a nice girl next door. MJ in the comics was hot, knew she was hot but wasn't a bitch, sassy, brimming with self-confidence (on the outside at least). The character was so unique and iconic that it's a damn shame that character didn't make it into these movies, no matter how much I might like Dunst.

Rose MacGowan would've been a great MJ - she's not only damn close to a perfect match in terms of looks (after you dye her hair red first), but I think she could do the character as Stan Lee conceived her.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Mjface.jpg

http://plusdevideos.free.fr/acteurs/RMG2.jpg

Karlifornia
05-06-2007, 04:27 AM
I'm a big Kirsten Dunst fan, and I don't get the slamming of her acting, but she was the wrong choice for this role. Kirsten Dunst's MJ is a good character and all - it's just not the MJ of the comics. Dunst's MJ is a nice girl next door. MJ in the comics was hot, knew she was hot but wasn't a bitch, sassy, brimming with self-confidence (on the outside at least). The character was so unique and iconic that it's a damn shame that character didn't make it into these movies, no matter how much I might like Dunst.

Rose MacGowan would've been a great MJ - she's not only damn close to a perfect match in terms of looks (after you dye her hair red first), but I think she could do the character as Stan Lee conceived her.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Mjface.jpg

http://plusdevideos.free.fr/acteurs/RMG2.jpg

And plus, all the bad guys would be toast....Rose McGowan's right leg is a machine gun!

cody8200
05-06-2007, 07:04 AM
I thought the movie was decent and liked the action scenes (although I think there were too few). It just seemed like there was too much of the love story, not enough action. The story drudged on for over 2 hours never really completing a whole storyline. Nevertheless, it was worth the money. Next up, Shrek 3. Then, Pirates 3.

B- overall

Joe
05-06-2007, 09:12 AM
what was with Parker walking down the street trying to act like Shooter McGavin with the ladies? That and the scene with him dancing and playing the piano were terrible. It's like the writers had just watched Anchorman before writing the script, and tried to recreate the jazz flute scene or something.

Anthony
05-06-2007, 10:00 AM
ii refuse to see these comic book movies anymore. i didn't see this one, but let's face it - the good guys always win. the only thing i like about the 3rd XMen movie is that people actually died in that one. when Cyclops died during the first act, i was like "ok, they killed him, but it's early and they'll find a way to bring him back to life". that was cool. still, with SpiderMan i don't need to see the movie to know he'll get his ass kicked and be on the brink and then pull it off in the end. which is why any movie involving Super Man is a complete waste.

with the cost of tickets these days i don't want to know the ending ahead of time. i took the wife to go see The Invisible, and while a part of me wanted to see Spider Man i said to myself "at least i won't know the ending of this movie". and i'm getting tired of CGI. it doesn't work. should only be used for making huge armies in sword and sandal movies or space scenes like in Star Wars. that's all. it's not realistic.

bulletsponge
05-06-2007, 10:32 AM
with the cost of tickets these days i don't want to know the ending ahead of time. i took the wife to go see The Invisible, and while a part of me wanted to see Spider Man i said to myself "at least i won't know the ending of this movie". and i'm getting tired of CGI. it doesn't work. should only be used for making huge armies in sword and sandal movies or space scenes like in Star Wars. that's all. it's not realistic

:) agreed. way to much CGI im most movies. i really hate CGI movies where most of the movie has it in it.

timmynausea
05-06-2007, 11:36 AM
I thought this was by far the worst of the Spider-Man movies for many of the reasons already mentioned. Where the first 2 had intricate plots that boiled down to clear themes, this story was just a mess. Of course, that's probably because Sam Raimi and his brother had big hands in writing the script this time whereas the first 2 movies had big name screenwriters and even a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist (Michael Chabon) involved.

law90026
05-06-2007, 12:01 PM
I thought it was quite bad honestly. Too many cheesy/cliched moments for my taste. I felt they were trying to make the show "dramatic", especially with what happens near the end, but it was 1) predicatable and 2) badly acted.

I did like the Venom suit though, that was really well done.

SFL Cat
05-06-2007, 01:50 PM
I enjoyed it. As others have said, a little too much cornball stuff and contrived sappiness here and there, but still a fun movie to watch.

Kodos
05-07-2007, 08:58 AM
I've never been a big Spiderman fan, but my wife is, so I've seen them all. This one was okay. Not great, not bad. The part I enjoyed the most was when he was bad Spiderman and in the club. It was good for some laughs. I think Dunst can be hot, but she doesn't do it in these movies. I agree it was too weepy. Venom is the first Spiderman villian that I've liked. The Green Goblin was horrid. The guy with the machine thing in Spiderman 2 was crap. Venom was cool, although his motivation was pretty pathetic.

Cringer
05-07-2007, 10:54 AM
Decent flick. I liked the action scenes. I think Venom kicked ass, easily my favorite thing about the movie.

mauchow
05-07-2007, 11:23 AM
Nearly 150 Mill. I did NOT see that coming.

oliegirl
05-07-2007, 11:51 AM
I never read comic books as a kid, so I don't know how accurate this was, but I thought the movie was really entertaining and overall, well done. I did think the Venom thing was a bit too "forced", and think that having the Sandman guy as the only villain for this one, and ending the movie with Topher Grace transforming into Venom would have been a better ending.

Swaggs
05-07-2007, 11:54 AM
Nearly 150 Mill. I did NOT see that coming.

Is that the biggest opening of all-time?

It will be interesting to see how they manage to extend the series, at this point. It doesn't sound like any of the primary characters (Maguire, Dunst, Franco--from some snippets I have seen, from their press appearances, all feel like the third one was pushing it) are interested in any more sequels. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd guess a Topher Grace/Venom vehicle could be one direction, but I'm not sure that will have the same power as Spiderman, and it could end up a Ghostrider/Catwoman/Elektra-type of failure.

timmynausea
05-07-2007, 12:04 PM
it could end up a Ghostrider/Catwoman/Elektra-type of failure.

Not that I actually care, but Ghostrider made just under a quarter of a billion worldwide.

Also, Spider-Man 3 did set a record for opening weekend, though the official numbers aren't in yet. The previous best was Pirates of the Caribbean 2 last year at just over $135 million.

Anthony
05-07-2007, 04:45 PM
i would sooner pay to see Venom in a movie than i would Spiderman 3.

Richard Weed
05-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Kirsten Dunst is freakin anorexic in the movie. It drug on at parts. Overall, an average movie IMHO.

cthomer5000
05-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Is that the biggest opening of all-time?

It will be interesting to see how they manage to extend the series, at this point. It doesn't sound like any of the primary characters (Maguire, Dunst, Franco--from some snippets I have seen, from their press appearances, all feel like the third one was pushing it) are interested in any more sequels.

They all seem to be of the mindset of "if everyone comes back, i'll come back." I think that's going to be the issue. We're probably either looking at everyone returning or a complete cast revamp. Sony is apparently committed to 3 more sequels, so it's coming one way or another.

What is a real shame is i belive that if they had been under contract for a 4th film, we would have gotten a better 3rd movie.

They should have had this whole film about him losing MJ, turning into a total dick, and then only having the Venom revelation at the end. That way they could have kept Sandman in the foreground, pushed off a resolution with Osborn until part 4, developed Topher Grace's character, etc. There was enough there for a good 2-film arc, but instead they shortchanged everything by cramming it into one movie.

Karlifornia
05-08-2007, 01:13 AM
I thought the movie was decent and liked the action scenes (although I think there were too few). It just seemed like there was too much of the love story, not enough action. The story drudged on for over 2 hours never really completing a whole storyline. Nevertheless, it was worth the money. Next up, Shrek 3. Then, Pirates 3.

B- overall

It's always funny to see when someone has the complete opposite of your taste in something. Cody, you're like my Film Watching Antithesis!

Pyser
05-10-2007, 12:25 PM
the onyl reason i didnt walk out of this movie was because i wanted to see how you kill sandman.

turns out the filmmakers didnt know, either.

i hated this film.

spleen1015
05-13-2007, 12:10 PM
I liked the characters. What they tried to do with the movie should be done in 2 movies. It has the "This will be the last one I do, so I am going cram all of the stuff I want into this movie." feel.

MikeVic
05-14-2007, 11:02 AM
I agree that the movie should have been split into two. Quality was kind of at my expectations, but I didn't have very high expectations to begin with.

Really annoyed that they didn't play up the fact that the symbiote AND Eddie hated Parker/Spider-Man. Not one use of the word "we." But the movie had funny parts, and enjoyable parts.

Icy
05-14-2007, 12:45 PM
Bleh, liked Venom a lot, hated the Jazz club dancing crap, totally unrelated and unnecessary imho.

Pyser
05-14-2007, 12:47 PM
the problem with splitting the movie in 2 is money and actors.

everyone had a 3 picture contract. not 4. it was never an option on whats already probably the most expensive movie ever made.